Sustain Changes - A preview by Shurelia

[quote=NicknameMy][quote] [b][[Soraka]][/b] * [[Starcall]] ** Cooldown reduced to 2.5 from 3 ** Base damage reduced to 60/85/110/135/160 from 60/90/120/150/180 ** AP ratio increased to [color=#ff0000][i][b].5[/b][/i][/color] from .25 [color=#0080ff][i] (If soraka should be something like an ap-dps, she needs at least a ratio of .5. Otherwise AP is not really helpfull)[/i][/color] ** Mana cost reduced to 35/40/45/50/55 from 40/50/60/70/80 ** Shred increased to 8/9/10/11/12 from 8/8/8/8/8 ** Maximum stacks reduced to 10 from 20 [color=#ff0000][i][b]** Range increased to 750 from 300[/b][/i][/color] [color=#0080ff][i](Obviously, this spell needs a bigger range to be really usefull)[/i][/color] * [[Astral Blessing]] ** AP Ratio reduced to [color=#ff0000][i][b]0.55[/b][/i][/color] from 0.9 [color=#0080ff][i](If you want to nerf the lane sustain, you should not nerf the AP-Ratio very hard, you should nerf the base heal)[/i][/color] ** Cooldown increased to [color=#ff0000][i][b]16[/b][/i][/color] from 10[color=#0080ff][i] (don't make it completly useless)[/i][/color] ** Base Heal [color=#ff0000][i][b]decreased to 55/110/165/220/275[/b][/i][/color] from 60/120/180/240/300[color=#0080ff][i](all said already)[/i][/color] ** Armor Buff increased to 25/50/75/100/125 from 20/35/50/65/80 ** Armor buff duration increased to 5 from 4 ** Cast range increased to 750 from 650 * [[Infuse]] ** AP ratio increased to [color=#ff0000][i][b].8[/b][/i][/color] from .6[color=#0080ff][i] (Again, don't make the AP-Ratio to weak)[/i][/color] ** Cooldown reduced to 10 from 15 ** Silence duration compressed to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3 [color=#ff0000][i][b]** Now grants 1,4 of the complete mana to soraka on selfcast.[/b][/i][/color] [color=#0080ff][i](a bit taric-like, soraka is very mana-heavy)[/i][/color] * [[Wish]] ** Wish AP ratio reduced to [color=#ff0000][i][b]0.65[/b][/i][/color] from 1.3[color=#0080ff][i] (I think, it still would be too much)[/i][/color] ** Base heal reduced to 200/300/400 from 200/320/440 ** Mana cost reduced to 100/175/250 from 200/275/350 Also buff the base stats of soraka, which are worst ever... [/quote] That would be my soraka changes.[/quote]

[quote=Confehdehrehtheh][quote=TheJohn] If they nerf the heals and you want to play as support, you have to get someone who can still deal damage. Sona's damage is OK for support, but Karma's is stronger. [/quote] You are wrong. If you're playing support you're there for utility. Heals happen to be utility, but not the kind that Riot wants to push the game forward with. They're nerfing heals but giving her a much larger defensive buff for herself and the heal target. With 40% CDR that's 40 armor every 4.2 seconds for 3 seconds. Sona will still be viable after this rework. It just means people will have to update their guides.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed]Ah so they are nerfing the heals huh? I always thought they were okay, I mean it didn't seem gamebreaking imo. Okay maybe [[Nidalee]]'s, but hey she is a nuke that heal won't be getting nerfed. hue hue hue hue hue :)[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=NicknameMy] [QUOTE] [B]Soraka[/B] * Starcall ** Cooldown reduced to 2.5 from 3 ** Base damage reduced to 60/85/110/135/160 from 60/90/120/150/180 ** AP ratio increased to [color=#ff0000][I][B].5[/B][/I][/color] from .25 [color=#0080ff][I] (If soraka should be something like an ap-dps, she needs at least a ratio of .5. Otherwise AP is not really helpfull)[/I][/color] ** Mana cost reduced to 35/40/45/50/55 from 40/50/60/70/80 ** Shred increased to 8/9/10/11/12 from 8/8/8/8/8 ** Maximum stacks reduced to 10 from 20 [color=#ff0000][I][B]** Range increased to 750 from 300[/B][/I][/color] [color=#0080ff][I](Obviously, this spell needs a bigger range to be really usefull)[/I][/color] * Astral Blessing ** AP Ratio reduced to [color=#ff0000][I][B]0.55[/B][/I][/color] from 0.9 [color=#0080ff][I](If you want to nerf the lane sustain, you should not nerf the AP-Ratio, you should nerf the base stats)[/I][/color] ** Cooldown increased to [color=#ff0000][I][B]16[/B][/I][/color] from 10[color=#0080ff][I] (don't make it completly uselsss)[/I][/color] ** Base Heal [color=#ff0000][I][B]decreased to 55/110/165/220/275[/B][/I][/color] from 60/120/180/240/300[color=#0080ff][I](all said already)[/I][/color] ** Armor Buff increased to 25/50/75/100/125 from 20/35/50/65/80 ** Armor buff duration increased to 5 from 4 ** Cast range increased to 750 from 650 * Infuse ** AP ratio increased to [color=#ff0000][I][B].8[/B][/I][/color] from .6[color=#0080ff][I] (Again, don't make the AP-Ratio to weak)[/I][/color] ** Cooldown reduced to 10 from 15 ** Silence duration compressed to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3 [color=#ff0000][I][B]** Now grants 1,4 of the complete mana to soraka on selfcast.[/B][/I][/color] [color=#0080ff][I](a bit taric-like, soraka is very mana-heavy)[/I][/color] * Wish ** Wish AP ratio reduced to [color=#ff0000][I][B]0.65[/B][/I][/color] from 1.3[color=#0080ff][I] (I think, it still would be too much)[/I][/color] ** Base heal reduced to 200/300/400 from 200/320/440 ** Mana cost reduced to 100/175/250 from 200/275/350[/QUOTE] That would be my soraka changes. [/quote] Much better idea. EDIT: Don't forget a buff to her terrible base stats.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][b]I think I know why RIOT is nerfing heals!!![/b] OK, heres the thing: Some great MOBAs like HoN and DotA 2 are going to draw attention, and RIOT is afraid of losing players. Both HoN and DotA dont have like a support that only heals and shields, the games are fast and all champions can fight. RIOT's idea is making LoL closer to the other games: they are nerfing the utility part to make supports stronger. As I said, I only think this is the reason, but let's see what Phreak'll say.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that there are no real buffs to compensate for the massive nerfs to the heals. I read a bunch of Shurelia posts saying that the Sona bugfix was a buff, even though Sona was always meant to have that damage. -_-[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=TheJohn] Mordekaiser needs only one nerf: his AP ratios. RIOT'll do me a favor reducing that shit and making him a tank again.[/quote] Pfft.. HHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA You so funneh. [quote]I think I know why RIOT is nerfing heals!!![/quote] Lawl no.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=NicknameMy] [color=#0080ff][I] (If soraka should be something like an ap-dps, she needs at least a ratio of .5. Otherwise AP is not really helpfull)[/I][/color][/quote] 0.4 isn't bad for that damage, but 0.5 is more fitting (and on the high side (as in HIGH AP ratio)).[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The AP-ratio of [[starcall]] should not be to high, because it is aoe^^. If you hit all 5, the ap-ratio would be 2,5^^.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=TheJohn] [b]I think I know why RIOT is nerfing heals!!![/b] OK, heres the thing: Some great MOBAs like HoN and DotA 2 are going to draw attention, and RIOT is afraid of losing players. Both HoN and DotA dont have like a support that only heals and shields, the games are fast and all champions can fight. RIOT's idea is making LoL closer to the other games: they are nerfing the utility part to make supports stronger. As I said, I only think this is the reason, but let's see what Phreak'll say. [/quote] I'm about 100% sure that they are nerfing heals because they don't like how it makes champions less wary of damage. At the same time, they are removing oracles for the purpose of ward sweeping, as it makes games last much longer. Basically, they want the game to go slightly faster, and be more exciting. They are trying to make the support role feel more epic.[/quote]