Thoughts on the New Jungle?

[quote=NinjaGinge]^that was my prediction. Counter jungle is useless and jungler just doesnt hold their own with exp and gold. Should be interesting to see how riot responds[/quote]

[quote=MDC]Sad, that I can't try it out till december 13th normally :/. Zilean should be top ban/pick with new jungle change.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Nighthawk]Counterjungling is useless unless you steal red or blue.[/quote] Only steal the big minion. BOOM you just took 75% of the enemy jungler's exp and money away.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I can jungle Nidalee... This makes me happy xD[/quote]

[quote=Glitched]you know the jungle is way to easy when you can full clear it with AP caster runes on Gangplank >.>, i almost died but i still full cleared it.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I didn't even come close to dying with Nidalee...even at blue at level 1 and the enemy Volibear's pathetic attempts to counterjungle me ended in his death xD[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]Tomorrow I learn to jungle Sivir. Beware the Boomerang Blade from the bushes. XD[/quote]

[quote=thebigd]I've done several test runs in custom games trying to get the timing down. With Lee Sin I can get to lvl 6 at around 7:15 seconds. That's about 45 seconds slower than it used to be and you keep falling behind the more you stay in. To do that I clear every camp, especially the big buff camps, as soon as they come up taking Tempest over my Q to get bigger AOE. The problem lies in the fact that I can't delay red for when I'm ready to gank or I lose another 30-45 seconds on my leveling. If I roll out of the weeds onto a mage at 50% HP, even over extended, and I'm 3 levels behind him with less gear, I get stomped out-right. I think this limits gameplay options more than intended.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]IMO you need s1 top whos able to support the jungle ganker in some ways. Seems like nuker can now jungle somehow, so top will take CC while Jungler will do the dmg trick. Ganks on lvl 3, 4 at the latest and now you have to include them into viable jungling.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Temzilla] [quote=Nighthawk]Counterjungling is useless unless you steal red or blue.[/quote] Only steal the big minion. BOOM you just took 75% of the enemy jungler's exp and money away. [/quote] Yes, I said it's useless UNLESS you steal red and blue, in which case you are FUCKED.[/quote]