Who do you think is secretly op?

[quote=omagma]I been playing Dota 2 (like all the cool people) so i am still at 1400.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing][quote=GrimmFate] [quote=RosePhoenix] [quote=GrimmFate] What's sad is that, even when he starts snowballing like that (Unless you get other members on your team fed) the other team will still be able to shut you down late game. [/quote] o_o The whole point of snowballing is to abuse the advantage and win early... If you're getting shut down late game that's not the champion's problem that's the player failing at snowballing [/quote] My point was if you're against a decent team they'll simply wait you out if you're are generally snowballing that hard. EVERYBODY knows(Or should know) Renekton doesn't do as well late-game. It's not that hard to figure out.(<Thus having other people getting kills/farm on your team is quite nice in case they do they that.) But then again this is the LoL community I'm talking about so I'm sure most of them would continue to run into you and die then blame a random person on their team (Probably the person with the most deaths) and surrender around 25-30 minutes in. [/quote] By your logic there's no such thing as snowballing then. When you're fed with ANY champion, the strategy is to abuse the advantage when the enemy is weaker than you to complete objectives and force fights. No one gets fed and holds off until late game. That's plain retarded. Yes, in theory by holding off a champion that's fed until late you can win but the problem is you can't. Also, your logic is kinda faulty. If you're going to assume the enemy team of the fed Renekton is smart, you have to assume Renekton's team is smart, too. If everyone plays at the same skill level in theory, and one team has a fed champion, the other team will lose. That's one of the main reasons why stomps still exist in high level gameplay. [quote=Mooninites] So does Pantheon and Lee Sin. And Lee doesn't fall off as hard late game if he doesn't snowball, so there's no reason to pick Renekton over Lee [/quote] There are scenarios where you pick certain champs over other champs. You can't say "OH ONE CHAMP IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER“ unless they have like the exact same abilities / gameplay. EG: Renekton has a hard CC, Lee Sin does not. Renekton has a double dash, Pantheon does not. Of course, I'm not saying Renekton is better than Lee or Panth - in fact Lee is one of the safest top laners to pick right now. I'm just saying that there will be scenarios where you'll want to pick Renekton over other champs.[/quote]

[quote=animorte][quote=omagma] [quote=animorte] [[Karma]] is a great champion. Most people just don't know how to use her. [/quote] Karma is terrible. [/quote] The only champion in the entire game that can heal your entire team and damage the entire enemy team in one ability, shield one of your allies and damage the entire enemy team in one ability. Two ways to completely save somebody's life while dealing damage to the entire enemy team. Yup, terrible. People just despise her for not having an extremely game-changing ultimate. That's ok because there is always room for me to use her and do great. :)[/quote]

[quote=koksei][quote=omagma] I been playing Dota 2 (like all the cool people) so i am still at 1400. [/quote] DotA 2 is horrible and I'd own you there trust me son :3 I've played some dota last weekend and I am still op and made them all leave.. I just dun like the graphics of dota2 -.- seems so wrong and meh the champs look like crap compared to the old ones[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Who builds malady on any champion now? o_o[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=animorte] The only champion in the entire game that can heal your entire team and damage the entire enemy team in one ability, shield one of your allies and damage the entire enemy team in one ability. Two ways to completely save somebody's life while dealing damage to the entire enemy team. Yup, terrible. People just despise her for not having an extremely game-changing ultimate. That's ok because there is always room for me to use her and do great. :) [/quote] But [[Karma]]'s spells cost way to much.. And she really needs gear to be effective. But overall her spells are awesome.[/quote]

[quote=animorte][quote=RosePhoenix] Who builds malady on any champion now? o_o [/quote] [[Malady]] is awesome. I still can't use it on very many champions though, unfortunately. Just a serious lack of utility. I will always use it on Kayle. (I just wish it had more AP.)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Malady is pretty useless shit on all champions.[/quote]

[quote=omagma][quote=koksei] [quote=omagma] I been playing Dota 2 (like all the cool people) so i am still at 1400. [/quote] DotA 2 is horrible and I'd own you there trust me son :3 I've played some dota last weekend and I am still op and made them all leave.. I just dun like the graphics of dota2 -.- seems so wrong and meh the champs look like crap compared to the old ones [/quote] Pics, or did not happen. And no, Dota 2 i great, i am having way more fun than i ever had in lol.... And Koksei, get of your high horse, being an asshole do not suite you.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=DuffTime] Malady is pretty useless shit on all champions. [/quote] It's quite strong on champions like [[Kayle]] and [[Warwick]] but it doesn't scale into late-game and in the early-game you will be having different priorities. Hence, the item itself isn't that bad; others are just way better. EDIT: Also, a very restricted amount of champions can actually use all of the stats well.[/quote]