Why are the follwing champs banned?

[quote=OTGBionicArm]This is the way i look at it; Shen sucked other than his ultimate. Then he got the... BUFF OF THE GODS! and then he was OP must ban material. Then they nerfed him again and he's strong but not broken or worth banning.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Khazem] [quote=Nighthawk] and Ashe are worse then trash in high elo atm [/quote] waaat [/quote] I haven't seen a whole lot of Ashe's at dreamhack qualifiers so far, mind you i've only watched EU so far...[/quote]

[quote=Taco limeyjr]There all very annoying end of story[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Ashe has like 1000 years stun, it's so annoying. Wouldn't call her ban material tho[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster][[Ashe]] used to be permaban back in the old days. Now she's only banned in High ELO because pros that use [[ashe]] are just unbelievably strong. Most powerful imitation for an AD carry next to [[sivir]]'s [[on the hunt]].[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=TreyDobe] [quote=NicknameMy] I think you forgot [[twitch]] jungle. His lvl 2 and 3 ganking power is feared and he will stomp unorganized teams early. Great at Solo Queue, Bad at Competetive. [/quote] Naw, get an oracle and either you have hard hitting CC or have a teammate who does, when you spot the rat, gun for him first before his friends and you'll easily get a kill. Also vision wards around the map can keep everyone aware where he might be so you can do that, I actually find him one of the easiest people to kill other than [[teemo]] and a few other squishy targets though maybe I find them easy to take down cause I use [[Warwick]] and I'm pretty decent with him. [/quote] This is why I said "SOLO QUEUE". And what can you do, if you get lvl 2 ganked by twitch in the middle of top lane?[/quote]

[quote=iownedya]Run away.[/quote]

[quote=Totallynotn00b]At lower elo? Because they can't be handled. [[shaco]][[kassadin]] Pubstompers 101. Former: "OMG HOW PLAY PASSIVE?" Latter: "OMG WHY AP MID BAD IDEA?" Now: [[morgana]] : AFK farm and AFK push, go roam. Ult is pretty much derpingly good. Good morgs can't really be shut down, but alot of people i know don't play her because she's just so bloody boring. [[Shen]]: Is actually fairly dominant in lane. But can still be countered, ala [[olaf]] and co. But that global ult is weeeee.....[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Run away? You will be poisoned with true dmg and slowed into nothing. Oh, and don't forget [[exhaust]]/[[ignite]][/quote]

[quote=Azeb][[Shen]] - His ultimate can pretty much change the course of a gank, and possibly even a teamfight by saving the carry. Also, theoretically, his sustain and short cooldown on Q make him a pretty good solo top and he can jungle. [[Shaco]] - Because he is Shaco and he is annoying. [[Morgana]] - As Lugignaf said, she can bring a lot of utility into a team fight, and is a hard lane(well, at least for me). [[Kassadin]] - He is sent mid, and he is Anti-AP. I am sure you would not want to send your [[Ashe]] mid just to counter him.[/quote]