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Creator: Totallynotn00b
June 28, 2012 2:30am
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TLDR: Don't ask me to review your guide if you're faint hearted or you know it's not good. I WILL savage bad guides. Otherwise, ask away.



So... why?



Pretty simple. I have time in which i can't actually play LoL yet still have that itch. Ergo, I thought i would have a stab at reviewing guides. Blargh. I guess this would work like with any other review shop.
I do have criteria with which I need to be met before i have a stab at it, but any decent guide should have these in spades anwyay.
So. You fill out the application stuff, give me the link to your guide, I actually read it and give you the feedback. Depending on the quality of your guide, i'll do one of several things.

It's Unsalvagable :
Be prepared for a half-arsed essay. Honestly. I don't normally give up on anything i review, but there are some that are just horrible . Also, I won't be voting. As much as it may deserve a -1, it's not worth my time and effort. You can't be arsed to make a proper guide? I can't be arsed to review it.

It's "£~@&$! :
Be prepared for an essay on why, and a -1.

It's...ok :
In which I would still probably give you an essay on why.

It's good :
Would say why i liked it. Honestly. This isn't as hard to get to as i'm making it out to be. Maybe +1. Depends how generous im feeling.

It's VERY good :
I retire. You've got some serious impressing to do before i give out one of these. Shameless self-plug. Does it match to my guide? Probably not since you didn't spend days on the thing, but you get the point. +1.

What's the difference?



I would feel I specialise in seeing what's wrong as opposed to what's right .
In other games where i mentor people, I don't point out what they do right so much as what they do horribly wrong. Mistakes improve people. When you play a flawless game, it's because you've done nothing wrong, as opposed to everything right in my book.
I see other reviewers and their reviews, and how they're almost always positive... and yet I find what i consider to be blatant and obvious errors.
If there is a mistake, I'm the one most likely to find it.
That doesn't mean i won't give you credit for good points/formatting/blahblah, but you want serious criticism? You come to me.

What do I review?



I know enough about the game to review pretty much everything. I know enough people to ask them if i'm unsure about something. You won't get knowingly false information from me.
That said, I specialise in Mid. You want to impress me with a mid guide? I expect a lot, but this is also where I'm most knowledgeable at.

What do I look for?



Guides which make sense . I don't need you to be a meta sheep, or *21/9/0* in what ever order, or *need full item build lols*. I need you to JUSTIFY why you do so.
Spirit. I'll most likely present a list of things to you which I want you to explain. If you can't, then why have you put it there? If you can succcessfully argue your corner of reasoning, then good.
I also look for the truth . If I see something utterly stupid like "herp take Cleanse to remove suppression" You are going to get slated for it.
Put a * in your post if you've read this far.


What do you get?



A response, of course.
Criticism. Uncorrupted, non-molly coddling criticism.
No x/10 system. Honestly. Everything's relative to its own criteria and sub criteria.

What do I want?



For you to not be brain-dead, and wasting my time. I mean, fair does right?
Nothing else really. Wouldn't mind +votes on my own guide if you felt it deserved it.


Rules:



English only
: (By which i mean, the langauge. Not going to -1 you if you put in HUE HUE HUE... perhaps.) Just not exactly fluent in others.
You spell checked it, it makes grammatical sense, blah blah. (By which i mean it's relatively error-free. Everything is relative. If my guide can be pretty much error-free, I don't see why yours cant be. ). You're going to put work into it, sure, but don't then shoot yourself in the foot by making it work for the reader to read.
One guide at a time: Self explanatory.
you actually know what you're talking about . Sure i won't be able to tell until i look at your guide, but by God i've played this game long enough to know the basics of every lane. I'm not exactly going to be bluffed.
Summoners Rift only . I dont play 3v3's, and dominion is... err.. dominion. I dunno, if you really want me to review a dominion guide, you better be good at writing groveling sentences.
All replies and correspondence are to be on this thread . Don't think you can handle being criticised in front of the world? Means you know you need to work on your guide more.
Fill out the form . Random "HAIZ REVIEW MA GUIDE PLOX" will be ignored. Or worse, if i'm in a really foul mood, just -1. Cant be bothered to read this post for YOUR benefit? Well. Dont mind me...
State the build if you have more than one. If you have more than one build by default i'll be assuming the first one is the one which is most relevant.



Due to popular request, the cardinal sins of guide writing:



Cardinal sin 1: Not putting it through a spell checker.
Cardinal sin 2: Writing ~@"£$!
Cardinal sin 3: Writing opinion.
Cardinal sin 4: Contradicting yourself.

Explanation:
1 - Obvious enough. If it's not legible, it's useless.
2 - If you're giving false information, it's worse than useless.
3 - If you're writing opinion without explantion, you dont know what a proper guide is.
4 - If you contradict yourself, you need to work on your own thoughts before attempting to tell it to others.

If i see these, In most cases, its automatically *not* a +1. If i see too many.... expect much much worse.




Guides reviewed:



Name: Amazing monkey
Link to guide: "Sun Wukong- Great Sage Equal to Heaven"
Page: 1
Result: No vote.

Name: Pimboy:
Link to guide: "Wukong Solo Top Guide"
Page: 2
Result: -1

Name: Skullx
Link to guide: "SkullzX - riven-broken-sword-style"
Page:3
Result: No vote.

Name: H4xDefender
Link to guide : "competitive Solo Top/ Jungle Jax"
Page: 4
Result: No vote.


Name: Matt (aka Bluanimal)
Link to guide: "Bluanimals new and improved jax guide"
Page: 4
Result: No vote.

Name: Iownedya
Link to guide: "Twisted fate, Pick a type! (AP,AD,AS)
Page: 4
Result: -1

Name: RosePhoenix
Link to your guide :"Reverent riven, an indepth riven guide by rose phoenix"
Page: 5
Result:+1 OMG! YES, I DO GIVE +1's!11!one1!1!! (when it's deserved...)

Name: Anastasios
Link to your: "-Malignant Malzahar 2.0"
Page: 6
Result: No vote.

Name: OTGbionic arm
Link to guide: "OTGbionic arm - Darius - Complete guide to separating head from neck"
Page: 6
Result: +1 (eventually. When I calm down a bit. Alot. if at all.)

Name: Totalimmortal
Link to guide: "Totalimmortal - how-do-you-kill-that-which-has-no-life-ap-sion-guid"
PAge: 8
Result: No vote.

Name: Da_Neo
Link to guide: "Da_neo - annie-hide-and-seek-testing-ground"
Page: 9
Result: No vote. . For now.

Name: ICe creamy.
Link to guide: "Ice creamy - Support nunu brrrrrr"
Page: 9
Result: No vote.

Name: Da_Neo
Link to guide: "Da_neo - Annie hide and seek an indepth guide"
page: 9
Result: +1

Name: VK975
Link to guide:
"Mordekaiser-the-metallic-nightmare"
Page: 10
Result: No vote.

Name: Slaydis
Link to guide: "Slaydis - fiddlesticks the master of crows a mean indepth guide"
Page: 11
Result: No vote.

Name: astrolia
Link to guide: "astrolia - Support Sona, Tl;DR"
Page: 11
Result: +1

Name: Shizzukani
Link to guide: "Shizzukani - How to successfully spew in depth ad ap"
Page: 12
Result: Unsalvagable.

Name: Kazega
Link to guide: "Kazega - Katarina, playing with knives post rework"
Page: 12
Result: No vote

Name: Tehasian
Link to guide: "tehAsian - Diana- Moonlight midlane"
Page: 13
Result: No vote

Name: KSS awake
Link to guide: "KSS Awake - Skarner the trinity tank beas"
page: 13
Result: No vote

Name: Pølsemanden
Link to guide: "Pølsemanden - Ballz to the wallz top kennen"
Page: 15
Resukt: -1

Your name : KingPudding
Link to your guide : "Kingpudding - Nautilus Anchor of Doom.
Page: 17
Result: -1

H4Xdefender - re-review.

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Your name (Prefered way of addressing you, within reason.):
Link to your guide :
Any specific points that I should look at?:
Why should i review your guide?:
Why do you want your guide reviewed? :
Are you wasting my time?
Have you read the reviews i give?
Are you prepared for the same level of response?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by albableat » June 28, 2012 4:53am | Report

I retire. You've got some serious impressing to do before i give out one of these. Shameless self-plug. Does it match to my guide? Probably not since you didn't spend days on the thing, but you get the point. +1.


Jesus... I'm gonna stay here just to take a look at people who will get kung-fu'd hardcore chinese style at this place.

You seriously can't expect everyone to write guides of that kind of quality :D
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by crossfire » June 28, 2012 5:01am | Report
albableat wrote:



Jesus... I'm gonna stay here just to take a look at people who will get kung-fu'd hardcore chinese style at this place.

You seriously can't expect everyone to write guides of that kind of quality :D

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After I finish my Fiddlesticks guide I'll see just how critcal this guy can be XD
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albableat wrote:



Jesus... I'm gonna stay here just to take a look at people who will get kung-fu'd hardcore chinese style at this place.

You seriously can't expect everyone to write guides of that kind of quality :D



Good for the community no? If people can't, then I'll keep going until they can.
When they can, I can point to more guides and say "This is what you should aspire to."

Win/win!

Oh I dont know. I'm pretty sure LB is one of those champs where there is that much detail you can go into. BE harder pressed to come up with so many tricks with say.. i don't know. The moving ward .
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Amazing Monkey » June 28, 2012 9:56am | Report
Your name (Prefered way of addressing you, within reason.): Amazing Monkey
Link to your guide: Sun Wukong- Great Sage Equal to Heaven
Any specific points that I should look at?: Always looking to improve my guide, anything that you feel really needs work.
Why should i review your guide?: It's one of the highest rated guides. Therefore, it needs to provide the best information possible to ensure Mobafire's good face.
Why do you want your guide reviewed?: I don't want to have such a high-rated guide, unless it actually deserves to be there. The best way to make sure of this is to get as many opinions as possible and adapt based on their input.

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Annnnddd myyy firstt vicctiimmm customer.



Actually gave me a pretty good guide over all, but i have a few quibbles.



Amazing monkey: "Sun Wukong- Great Sage Equal to Heaven"

Riiighttt.

Runes - fine
SUmmoners - Ok.
Skill sequence and abilities - good.
Presentation - not going to lie. I actually liked it.

Buuuuuuut.

Things that stick out to me like sore thumbs:

1) infinity edge on a bruiser...(i presume you're building a bruiser) is generally a no no. If you really need more damage, you're better off with a last whispher. Just overkill, and money better spent elsewhere =/
2) I've seen trinity far more often. And there's no discussion of this item.
3) You have a champions section. Great! Buuuuuuut in addition to it not being complete (which itself is a minor thing), you didn't start with the likeliest opponnents you would face. It seems a tad illogical to me is all.
4) You have good sections on escaping... yet relatively nothing on fighting. I.e, teamfights: Initiation- ok, its there. When? Where? Why? How? etc. Additionally: Peeling? Target priorities? It's not here.

Minor quibbles:

Got a nice section on using decoy, yet no mention of using STOP function without decoy to just trick people... and use it later to screw with heads.
Your basic combo starts with Q... instead of an AA, despite the fact that Q resets the AA timer?


Conclusions: It;s between ok and good. Parts of it are very good. (It isn;t boring to read for starters.) But when i actually tried to find something to criticise, it definitely was there in my eyes. So there you have it.

Result: No vote yet. Will look again in a week, or unless requested earlier. Will judge again then.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Jpikachu1999 » June 28, 2012 11:58am | Report
I like this idea of someone who will point out the mistakes and won't soften it at all. I have a few questions though.

If we request, can we rerequest after we change our guides?

You posted your thoughts/essay on this thread, so should we reply on this thread or in our guide discussion?

I'll probably post here after I finish writing my guide.

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I like this idea of someone who will point out the mistakes and won't soften it at all. I have a few questions though.

If we request, can we rerequest after we change our guides?

You posted your thoughts/essay on this thread, so should we reply on this thread or in our guide discussion?

I'll probably post here after I finish writing my guide.


Rerequests... err... Probably. Depends how i'm feeling.
I post thoughts on this thread to keep everything centralised for my sake. And ups the stakes a little bit. Afraid of being criticised in front of the world? Stay away.

But i;m a nice person really <3
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Jpikachu1999 » June 28, 2012 2:15pm | Report
I meant the fact that "if we change the guide/decide to give responses to you" should we post our replies in this thread or in the discussion tab of our guide?

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If you want to reply to my criticisms, it'll be done in this thread... perhaps unless they asked nicely.

Or have i misunderstood you again?
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