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Yorick: The infinite sustain douchebag, and how...

Creator: Acid Reigns March 31, 2012 5:33am
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Same thing on Udyr and Sion.

Even while Sion can win a sustain battle he'll definitely lose an aggressive trade.

@Kurt
And like you already said in your first post "what you've learnd", I bet you never even had a solo top face-off between Sion and Yorick, not to mention that you don't seem to play Sion yourself.
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Oh, and the first item I get is either Spirit Visage or Chalice of Harmony.


Really?
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Wait.

Spirit Visage or Chalice of Harmony on Udyr.

Tell me how they work. Please. I'm very interested.
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Pretty nice. Though I find Yorick particularly easy to beat if you're , or and you start with a / 2 pots.

The Magic Damage from both his Leech Ghoul and Slow Ghoul are significantly reduced, and then even getting possibly an - well... there goes 's sustain.

Nice explanation though :D
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Executioner's Calling is a ****py item that should never be bought and according to most people (this was discussed before)

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If Warwick is scaring you enough to buy a ****py item, then you're losing your lane


Or something like that.

If you start Null-Magic Mantle he'll heal off creeps. Then he'll bash you in with his shovel and have an advantage because he starts with more Health Potions.

Tryndamere gets beaten by Yorick because he'll get denied the creeps songs can't heal with Bloodlust.

Nidalee has a range advantage, but has no real damage other than AA pokes and will lose in trades.

Warwick has great sustain, but I'm pretty sure he would lose trades early on. I actually don't know about this one.
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tehAsian wrote:

Wait.

Spirit Visage or Chalice of Harmony on Udyr.

Tell me how they work. Please. I'm very interested.


Spirit Visage is a great early game item on Udyr, it gives you anything you want, especially the CDR.

Chalice of Harmony is mainly against magic abilities. It works amazingly because you can mass-heal quickly by activating your passive twice then going into Turtle, giving you a few very fast AA's to heal up on. You can pretty much ignore Yorick's harass with it.

I can't decide which one works best on him, they work the same way, against magic abilities. But Spirit Visage gets you early CDR, which is huge if you want to go aggressive, as it enables you to pull off bear and a quick tiger to wear them down. Chalice is more for passive spamming, mainly renewing turtle style whenever someone tries to harass you.
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i think trundle actually counters yorick pretty hard with his passive, could be wrong though, top lane isn't my forte
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Mooninites wrote:

i think trundle actually counters yorick pretty hard with his passive, could be wrong though, top lane isn't my forte


He is, actually he's the only top I'M really comfortable with against Yorrick.
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I think Trundle is a passive player solution.

Sion is a "I wanna completely make Yorick useless/overpower him and kill him" type of counter.

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Spirit Visage: 15% Increase to health regeneration. 15% of 10% is a 1.5% increase. For the same price, you can get Recurve Bow and Vampiric Scepter, building into Wit's End and Wriggle's Lantern. What's the point of switching stances if you're primarily using just one?

Chalice of Harmony: =______= Turtle Stance for mana, get Negatron Cloak and Vampiric Scepter for same price.

Want Cdr? Get blue elixir. Cheap as hell and efficient, same cdr as SV, and MUCH better than buying a 1500 item and selling it later when you aren't going to use it.
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Spirit Visage is a great early game item on Udyr, it gives you anything you want, especially the CDR.

Chalice of Harmony is mainly against magic abilities. It works amazingly because you can mass-heal quickly by activating your passive twice then going into Turtle, giving you a few very fast AA's to heal up on. You can pretty much ignore Yorick's harass with it.

I can't decide which one works best on him, they work the same way, against magic abilities. But Spirit Visage gets you early CDR, which is huge if you want to go aggressive, as it enables you to pull off bear and a quick tiger to wear them down. Chalice is more for passive spamming, mainly renewing turtle style whenever someone tries to harass you.


Spirit Visage is okay-ish on Udyr but I wouldn't build it that early. Chalice of Harmony though...Really? I can't think of a worse item to build on Udyr. He has absolutely no problem with mana...so why?

Why on EARTH wouldn't you just get a Wit's End? It's simply so much better than either of those items.
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