Click to open network menu
Join or Log In
Mobafire logo

Join the leading League of Legends community. Create and share Champion Guides and Builds.

Create an MFN Account






Or

MOBAFire's first Mini Guide Contest of Season 14 is here! Create or update guides for the 30 featured champions and compete for up to $200 in prizes! 🏆
's Forum Avatar

Doran Item prioritizing on Item Builds

Creator: JunSupport July 20, 2011 11:30pm
JunSupport
<Veteran>
JunSupport's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3344
Joined:
Oct 5th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 20, 2011 11:30pm | Report
Could we have it so the builds will ignore doran's items as the final 6 items if there are more expensive items before it?

For example:
If I were to make a Caster build, and had it stack a few doran's rings mid game, I don't want those stats affecting the final stats. In Mobafire's current system, the following would end up having Rabadon's Deathcap (and probably the booSorc shoes) ignored, which is obviously not desirable.

Catalyst the Protector


Basically, what I'm asking is to have Doran's Items treated as ingredients when there are 6 or more higher tier items in the build already, but they would not reduce the costs of any of those more expensive items.
~ Gentlemen Cho'Gath ~
┌──┐
┴──┴
< ಠ,....,ರೃ>
~ Keeping this sig classy ~

Guides of Mine - Click the... Eh... Come back later

~Undergoing barbaric-Destruction, tasteful-Renovation, and blasphemous-Reconstruction soonâ„¢~
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
Blydden
<Member>
Blydden's Forum Avatar
Posts:
424
Joined:
May 23rd, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 21, 2011 4:16am | Report
Agreed. It is basic theorycraft that Doran's stacking a finished build does not make.

+1

Fantastic artwork by Xiaowiriamu & TheNamelessBard!
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 21, 2011 11:17am | Report
I don't know how much use this would get. Doran stacking is typically limited to early game. Rarely, if ever, will you find the need to buy another doran's after finishing your first core item.
Temzilla
<Member>
Temzilla's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
4363
Joined:
Mar 28th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 21, 2011 11:33am | Report
Considering you can farm a 3600g item, why can't you farm a 860/435g item :S?

Getting two doran's after deathcap is just plain inefficient.

I agree though, basic items shouldn't have priority over completed items.
Tri lane for life.
JunSupport
<Veteran>
JunSupport's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3344
Joined:
Oct 5th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 21, 2011 9:58pm | Report
@Jebus:

This is what I sometimes build on Shaco. When ganks are good. P:

(+ pots) ...

I stack doran's blades to give myself more bulk when I can't immediately buy Brutalizer that has proven to be useful for ganking.
In this case, Wriggle's Lantern AND Berserker's Greaves would end up getting omitted by Mobafire's item build system. Which is obviously not an item I would sell just yet.

So, as you can see, this issue affects early game style Doran's Stacking too.


@Temzilla:

In some cases, you may just want the Doran's rings for the susrvivability and their superior gold value. Doran's items give much better value then component items because they don't build into anything.

Doran stacking typically lets you stay in lane a lot longer as long as you have good positioning and don't eat too much harass, combined with the better gold value early game that could let you farm more and possibly net more kills, they can be a good investment in a broad situation.
~ Gentlemen Cho'Gath ~
┌──┐
┴──┴
< ಠ,....,ರೃ>
~ Keeping this sig classy ~

Guides of Mine - Click the... Eh... Come back later

~Undergoing barbaric-Destruction, tasteful-Renovation, and blasphemous-Reconstruction soonâ„¢~
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
wRAthoFVuLK
<Altruistic Artist>
wRAthoFVuLK's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10852
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 24, 2011 2:29pm | Report
No, he means it will count the last 6 items...that is fine since they are all at the beginning, he is saying if they come after, say, boots, boots won't get calculated...why don't you just look at his example T_T

Thanks to TRUeLM, Plastictree, Scrax, Xiaowiriamu, foggy12, JahGFX, jhoijhoi, msrobinson, JEFFY40HANDS, Nyoike, MissMaw, and me :) for the sigs!
JunSupport
<Veteran>
JunSupport's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3344
Joined:
Oct 5th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 30, 2011 3:00am | Report
@wRAth:

You referring to me or someone else?
~ Gentlemen Cho'Gath ~
┌──┐
┴──┴
< ಠ,....,ರೃ>
~ Keeping this sig classy ~

Guides of Mine - Click the... Eh... Come back later

~Undergoing barbaric-Destruction, tasteful-Renovation, and blasphemous-Reconstruction soonâ„¢~
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
wRAthoFVuLK
<Altruistic Artist>
wRAthoFVuLK's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10852
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 30, 2011 12:20pm | Report
...

that post is almost a week old now...lol

someone deleted their post T_T

Thanks to TRUeLM, Plastictree, Scrax, Xiaowiriamu, foggy12, JahGFX, jhoijhoi, msrobinson, JEFFY40HANDS, Nyoike, MissMaw, and me :) for the sigs!
JunSupport
<Veteran>
JunSupport's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
3344
Joined:
Oct 5th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep August 5, 2011 3:06pm | Report
These forums aren't that active for a week to be considered a necro. lol
~ Gentlemen Cho'Gath ~
┌──┐
┴──┴
< ಠ,....,ರೃ>
~ Keeping this sig classy ~

Guides of Mine - Click the... Eh... Come back later

~Undergoing barbaric-Destruction, tasteful-Renovation, and blasphemous-Reconstruction soonâ„¢~
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
wRAthoFVuLK
<Altruistic Artist>
wRAthoFVuLK's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10852
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep August 5, 2011 10:50pm | Report
Wat

when did I say it was a necro

it was just a really late response

and it was directed to someone who ended up deleting their post

Thanks to TRUeLM, Plastictree, Scrax, Xiaowiriamu, foggy12, JahGFX, jhoijhoi, msrobinson, JEFFY40HANDS, Nyoike, MissMaw, and me :) for the sigs!

You need to log in before commenting.

League of Legends Champions:

Teamfight Tactics Guide