My friends tell me to never get defense for...

[quote=dragon3025]A lot of top rated Ashe guides list defense items to use. I usually get one defense item mid to late game if feel like I need it (for example: if the enemy team is stacking attack and I'm getting harassed by it, then I'd get a defense item). I also get life-steal. My friends act like it's a really bad move because her defense is so low that it wont make a difference and because she's a back lane character (which I am good at staying in the back and behind other champions, but not always are things going to be perfect). I'm thinking that one defense item can keep me alive longer as long as I keep my distance, and if I'm alive longer I'll be able to damage more. I asked this question on another site and everyone said they get it as a last item, but the way my friends react to it, it's like I shouldn't get it at all. What do you guys think, and why?[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]Always get a defensive item in the mid-late game. You will get either focused or enemy's AoE will eat you. [[guardian angel]] and [[randuin's omen]] and [[mercurial scimitar]] are the most used on ADCs. You can get it as 3-6th item.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Janitsu] Always get a defensive item in the mid-late game. You will get either focused or enemy's AoE will eat you. [[guardian angel]] and [[randuin's omen]] and [[mercurial scimitar]] are the most used on ADCs. You can get it as 3-6th item. [/quote] [[banshee's veil]] is a more commonly seen option than [[randuin's omen]].[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=dragon3025] I'm thinking that one defense item can keep me alive longer as long as I keep my distance, and if I'm alive longer I'll be able to damage more. [/quote] That's the idea. If you're dying in teamfights, there's no point in building more damage because... you're sttill just doing to die. Building a defensive item will then allow you to stay alive longer so you can deal more damage in fights. What item you want kind of depends on the situation. For example: if you're getting bursted down by an assassin and your team isn't able to peel for you, a Guardian Angel will often help a ton. If you're being taken out of fights because of a random Nidalee spear, a Banshee's Veil will make a world of difference. If you're unable to do a lot of damage because a Nasus is spamming wither on you, a Quicksilver Sash will take care of that, etc.. When do you buy it? Whenever you feel like you need it. You'll get a feel for it eventually.[/quote]

[quote=dragon3025]Thanks for the replies everyone, it really helps. I'm going to continue to get defense when I feel like I need it, my friends are just going to have to deal with it.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Vynertje] [[banshee's veil]] is a more commonly seen option than [[randuin's omen]]. [/quote] I'd be more tempted to take Omen if they have an a uto-er like Jax or something, or if you're really short range like Vayne/Graves.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]You should always get a defensive item. [[Guardian Angel]] is overall good, if your team protects you when you're in the passive at least. [[Randuin's Omen]] is good vs [[Irelia]], [[Tryndamere]], [[Jax]], [[Master Yi]], etc. [[Banshee's Veil]] is good vs burst mages kicking your ass ([[LeBlanc]], [[Veigar]], etc.) [[Quicksilver Sash]] is good vs a high CC team - just activate it and all CC on you disappears. I've seen people build [[Frozen Heart]], [[Warmog's Armor]], [[Spirit Visage]], [[HexDrinker]] and [[Thornmail]], but I think they're extremely situational and/or subpar. For the trolls, if your adc has some AP scaling get a [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] x)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=IceCreamy] For the trolls, if your adc has some AP scaling get a [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] x) [/quote] I've actually done that once against a Vi. Stopped her ult cold every time. :D[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Your friends are scrubs. That's all I'm saying.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] [quote=Janitsu] Always get a defensive item in the mid-late game. You will get either focused or enemy's AoE will eat you. [[guardian angel]] and [[randuin's omen]] and [[mercurial scimitar]] are the most used on ADCs. You can get it as 3-6th item. [/quote] [[banshee's veil]] is a more commonly seen option than [[randuin's omen]]. [/quote] Randuin's on ADC is no longer a real option. Get BV or GA instead. Regarding the thread: a defensive item is necessary on an ADC and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.[/quote]