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So this year, within a few weeks, i'm building a new computer to replace this dying laptop that i use for LoL. i'm buying the parts from newegg, and i'd appriciate some help. first, i'm going to need everything but a hard drive, keybaord, mouse, case, and dvd drive. second, i've got less than $1000 USD. any suggestions? (i'm going to be building it myself and already have the os as well). also, i'll be posting a finished build here. any help with build suggestions?

also, i'm considering going wireless for roaming, such as a verision/other company wireless card (not a wifi network). does anybody have any idea what one game takes as in data sent/recieved? any thanks would be greatly appriciated, thanks.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Samoh » January 3, 2012 2:04pm | Report
Umm so something like...

AMD Athlon II x4 620
4GB DDR3 RAM
Radeon HD 4000-5000 series
Gigabyte motherboard (GA-MA790XT-UD4P)

Up to you with the rest, although those parts will run any game, at medium + graphics with good cooling. At least they should.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Zoki » January 3, 2012 4:47pm | Report
He can get way way way better equipment for that money. And also never ever buy AMD processors. Intel is so much better than AMD.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by koksei » January 3, 2012 5:01pm | Report
Zoki wrote:

He can get way way way better equipment for that money. And also never ever buy AMD processors. Intel is so much better than AMD.

not true lol - of course they are better but look at the price :/

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the rest us up to you ;)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Zoki » January 3, 2012 5:10pm | Report
Yeah but he has 1000$ budget, and he already has some stuff. AMD is budget-friendly, while Inter isn't cheap but has better performance and L2 cache. So if he has 1000$ available, it doesn't make sense that you buy 180$ processor and then spend double that money on graphics card, because graphics won't be fully used if you have weaker processor. In short, its better to buy 50/50 power with graphics/processor then buy 30/70 because it won't be used to its max potential.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Freddy Shopan » January 4, 2012 4:32am | Report
But really, Intel > AMD. Look at the comparable price vs speed. Not specs. Read speed tests. AMD is better for duo core. But if you have a $1000 budget, you DEFINITELY want a sandy bridge. I'd suggest i5 2500k. Intel's latest gen is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than their previous ones. Even the i5 beats out the AMD 6-cores. All of them. I haven't read about their 8-core, but unless that's faster or you wanna wait for bulldozer, AMD doesn't make ANY processor faster than the i5. And the i7 is hella fast, but not a huge improvement for the price (if you get an i7, your mobo will probably be more expensive, too). Speaking of motherboards, look at the reviews for AMD mobos versus Intel ones. World of difference.

Honestly, you don't need to over-clock with this cpu, but I do. >:]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


And buy an after-market cpu fan for it, too. Much quieter, much cooler.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057


As for a motherboard... I don't really wanna suggest one to you until you write back, 'cuz I don't know exactly what you want. Same for graphics card... But I'd suggest a third generation with usb3 support. That way your computer will stay relevant.


Also, the drop-off for memory is at 8g. Buy that much. Don't listen to people who tell you to buy more or less than that. 8g is significantly faster than less for a very low price. 12g or 16g is almost exactly the same speed.


As for a case, it doesn't really matter all that much, so long as it has good design to keep your stuff cool, and fan filters (most do these days, but make sure it does. Dust will slow down your computer a lot in the long run)

For a video card, it really depends on what you're doing. Are you using it just for LoL and games like that, or also shooters and stuff with more graphics intensive processes? No point in getting a video card in addition to the i5 if you're just playing LoL...

Alllso if you find that you have a few extra hundred after you buy your parts... SSD. It makes the difference. Trust me. Once you get one, you'll never go back.


Also, once you have your build, I'd suggest posting it on Tom's Hardware (forum). Great community that can help your build work.
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thanks for the info so far. i was already looking at the Intel i5 2500, so thanks for that. as to a graphics card, i'm looking at a NVIDIA 500 series. i'm using this computer for both LoL and graphic design, so the most bang for the buck... and i'm also not looking to have the $$$ for a SSD now, sadly. great difference, maybe in a few years, but for a comparable amount of money i'd be getting just not nearly the storage space. i'm pretty sure i'm going to get around 16 gigs of ram. i'm just not sure about a motherboard or monitor mostly now. i'm looking for a good reliable motherboard for 100-200 dollars, and a good monitor for less than 150 dollars. i'd also like the motherboard to have a USB 3.0 connection since my external is on USB 3.0

so what i'd really like are thoughts on a good $100-200 video card, a good motherboard, and a good monitor. thanks!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Freddy Shopan » January 4, 2012 5:34am | Report
For mobo, I'd look at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253

ASRock actually uses the same components as ASUS, but they're new on the block, so their prices tend to be lower, which is nice. It does have your USB 3.0


as for a monitor, I'm not entirely sure. I'd just look at the ratings, and maybe check around at a few stores and friends places to see what they've got. What I WILL say, though, is that you reeeally want something in the 20" market. I'd say somewhere around 22-23". Makes a huuuuuge difference.

As for video cards, you really don't need a great video card for graphics design I don't think (unless you're doing 3-d rendering? Don't think that really counts as graphics design). Generally, the more expensive graphics cards are really just for gaming. NVIDIA sounds good, as they tend to work well with Intel.

ACTUALLY, change of plans. I might actually again suggest to you to just use the i5 onboard graphics with a motherboard such as this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279

the onboard graphics for the i5 are actually rather impressive. Just a thought.

As I said, though, you should probably post on Tom's Hardware when you've got your plan set out. If there's an inconsistency, they'll point it out.
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Actually, games rely A LOT more on the graphics card than they rely on the processor.
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Isn't that what I just said?
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