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The issue of asylum seekers in Germany (and...

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As I'm living in Germany and being aware of these demonstrations:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30478321


What do you think about the topic in general and how do you judge some government's behaviour?
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tldr racists being stupid again.
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Meiyjhe wrote:
tldr racists being stupid again.

too facile, my dear friend ...
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emoriam wrote:

too facile, my dear friend ...
Please elaborate, or I fear this will be a very short discussion.
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Meiyjhe wrote:
tldr racists being stupid again.



racist?

its racist to not want immigrants to your country?

its racist to care about the future of your countrymen?

its racist to care about the future of your race?





jidf please go away.
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Please elaborate, or I fear this will be a very short discussion.



he's being too facile because he only appears to be responding by saying its a non issue, when in reality it is an issue that requires attention, whether you deem it to be important or not.
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caucheka wrote:
racist?

its racist to not want immigrants to your country?

its racist to care about the future of your countrymen?

its racist to care about the future of your race?

All reasonable concerns. But the problem is all the racist undertones of the protests.
I'm very much for stricter terms of immigration and cultural help in general, but all the racists are poisoning the well here.
Will you people please stop arguing on this topic? Because you're hindering progress more than you're helping it.
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Problem is what these people are protesting against. Asylum seekers may be of concern, but these people are against Islam specifically. What's the deal with Islam? These people hate that there is a "rise of Islam" and "these people can have better things than me", and there is a discrimination against Islam right here.

So yeah, it's pretty racist considering their message in this particular protest.
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because it is muslims who are coming over as asylum seekers. if it was a bunch of chinese or mexicans moving in then people would be upset about those groups.


areas high in concentration of these immigrants are high 'breeding grounds' for crime and rape statistically, i would be upset if my government was telling me we needed more of those people crowding our streets.
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caucheka wrote:

jidf please go away.
I'd prefer not to

caucheka wrote:
he's being too facile because he only appears to be responding by saying its a non issue, when in reality it is an issue that requires attention, whether you deem it to be important or not.
Immigration is a point of discussion, anti-Islam marches are not. The marches bring out the wrong message and should not be supported. If they were against immigration then they should focus their message around that instead of focussing it on a specific religion. This will bring people on the wrong track. If you want to have anti immigration campaigns, then that is fine. Then make sure that you are ACTUALLY protesting against immigration instead of creating an anti-Islam movement. This, because creating anti-Islam movements is just racists being stupid.

#startrant
In the Netherlands this topic comes by all the time because of this "genius" politician who can't shut up about how evil the Islam is. The worst thing is that he gets a lot of attention. This man keeps saying stuff like 80% of the Islam in the Netherlands would actually want to join ISIS, the Koran is evil, we should ban the Islam blablabla. Even if only 20% of the Islam are good people, then it is already wrong to make ANY anti-Islam statements at all.
#endrant

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its racist to not want immigrants to your country?

About immigration and ****, I think it is not a really easy topic, let alone say that immigrants shouldn't be able to refuge at all to your country anymore. We are talking about refugees here, not some people going to have a fun adventures on Hawaii. These people fled their countries because they were incapable of living there in a safe environment. They had to abandon their homes and families just to live somewhere safe. Could you imagine how that would feel like? To live your life in fear, then leaving your loving family and homes because you want to escape this fear and then finally arriving at this safe environment where the people are like: "Get out and never come back again"? I know I couldn't imagine at all how this would feel, not even close. Thinking about this made me realise that it is good to let immigrants in, people deserve to move to a safe environment. I also think that we should make it easy for the immigrants to make them feel at home in the country where they immigrate. If they would feel at home here, then they would also perform less crimes and would blend much easier into society. However, this of course would have its costs and should have its limits. Although to say what these limits should be, I don't have the background knowledge to judge.
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