Issue with Jungle Rammus

[quote=Hateryx][quote=RosePhoenix] Rammus is easily counterjungled and isn't a safe pick but if the enemies let you, sure pick it. [/quote] I agree Rammus is a risky pick because it is easily counterjungled. A remedy on this problem in order to reduce the risk is to buy wards (Cloth Armor (300)+ Sight Ward (75)+ 2 Potion (70)). A good coordination from the team can also assess this problem[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=BloBBloB99] @Pikachu: I generally choose Randuins on a Tank where HoG is a part of my build, but wiyh rammus, you're counterbuilding yourself. He likes attackspeed, because his Defensive Ball Curl and Thornmail are one of the things that defines him. @Busdriver: My early game build is: Cloth +5 Pot, Philo, Boots of Speed/HoG, HoG/Merc. Then I finish item after item in the way I wish to proceed. [/quote] a tank wanting AS is unseen... <.< unless you want to build [[Rammus]] as an anti-AD-carry. For that you won't need AS. For me, what defines him more is [[Puncturing Taunt]]. 3 seconds of doing whatever you want with them. N E WAY... you can easily get 400 armor so 100 bonus damage is ok, but not impressive. don't count on it to kill anyone. (be carefull of them [[Vayne]]s) the definition of you goes beyond yourself (being [[Rammus]] that is). You are a tank and going for [[Thornmail]] just because will hardly be ok, since you will take some time to slay someone this way. I only get [[Thornmail]] if there are 3 AD or more. Your job should be to iniciate, persue, protect and taunt. My standard final build looks something like this: [[Mercury's Treads]] [[Randuin's Omen]] [[Aegis of the Legion]] [[Frozen Heart]] [[Warmog's Armor]] [[Guardian Angel]] or [[Force of Nature]] (wrong order. build it according to your game. also I get an early philo stone and sell it when i get enough gold from it and no longer need those stats) i'm not a fan of [[Sunfire Cape]]. I only get it if i need an item fast and already have giant's belt. I easily build [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] if stuff goes well. I used to play him a lot more in blind pick. When picking him in draft, I only go for him if I am sure that your laners tend to be unable to counterpush (meaning the foe farms really well and fast, but my teammates can't). [[Rammus]] is not a fast jungler and profits most from ganks. make sure ganking situations are favorable. otherwise you'll easily fall off in levels and gold. and your team will have to prolong the game a lot so you can make an impact. »[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Don't only build pure defense items. That's one big misconception people have when playing tanks.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=RosePhoenix] Don't only build pure defense items. That's one big misconception people have when playing tanks. [/quote] first of all, i think it depends on playstyle and tank. second since you should be the one taking the damage, it should be well thought if you should build something else. third, [[Rammus]] and [[Galio]] build plenty of offense :P i just think you should weigh your words before saying something that isn't so candid.[/quote]