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Issue with Jungle Rammus

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Heillo Eardlings!

I have recently received PalNewz, and at a upcoming lan, I am the jungler. I generally NEVER play as a Jungler, so I hope they don't expect that good results. Regardless, a cheap pick that fits me is the Armorturtle Rammus/RAM US, and I'd like a couple 'o tips on how to ram 'em wher it hurts. You get me, don't 'cha?

And I also have a problem choosing my Health item in this build.
Mercury's Treads
Aegis of the Legion
Thornmail
Force of Nature
Shurelya's Reverie

Now, Warmog, SFCape or Frozen Mallet?

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I dunno about that Thornmail man. I'm not a giant Rammus player, but you'd get better results with Randuin's Omen ( Heart of Gold for more Gp10) or Frozen Heart (much needed mana and CDR).

Generally, a build like this works pretty well.

Mercury's Treads
Aegis of the Legion
Randuin's Omen
Shurelya's Reverie
Warmog's Armor
Force of Nature

That build should get you to around 3600 health or more. I'm too lazy to do the real calcs right now. Warmog's Armor wins by a ton for health on a tank. The only exception I would make on Rammus would be Rylai's Crystal Scepter, permaslow in teamfights with Tremors.

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Philosopher's Stone + Heart of Gold are a must on jungle Rammus.
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@Pikachu: I generally choose Randuins on a Tank where HoG is a part of my build, but wiyh rammus, you're counterbuilding yourself. He likes attackspeed, because his Defensive Ball Curl and Thornmail are one of the things that defines him.

@Busdriver: My early game build is: Cloth +5 Pot, Philo, Boots of Speed/HoG, HoG/Merc.
Then I finish item after item in the way I wish to proceed.

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Cloth Armor
Boots of Speed
Philosopher's Stone
Heart of Gold
Mercury's Treads
Aegis of the Legion
Sunfire Cape
Force of Nature

and 2 situational items. Think Abyssal Mask, Warmog's Armor, Guardian Angel, Thornmail, Frozen Mallet and Shurelya's Reverie.

Items like Randuin's Omen and Frozen Heart are forbidden to buy. Since Rammus actually wants people to attack him (just like Galio) those items basically counter yourself.

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I understand the whole, "He wants to have people attack him" sort of thing, but you're top and/or support are gonna get 1 of the 2 anyways. Possibly both. Also, the more you get hit, the more damage you take the faster you die after your Defensive Ball Curl ends. I thought the "main" purpose of Rammus was for that fantastic 3 second taunt and the natural urge to buy armor to counter the mainly AD meta. His goal wasn't damage last time I checked, but then again, like I said, I don't play Rammus that often. Still, that's my advice/opinions.

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@Pikachu: I feel our team needs a bit more damage in ganks and whatnot, so I'd really like to skip thoose items.
Our top is Vlad and our bot is Sona, whereas none like the Frozen Heart. If everybody are AD (or atleast 4), I would buy it though.
It's kinda the same with Randuin. They choose to not buy a HoG in the first place.

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Your AD bot is Sona, or you are using Sona support per the norm?

If you gank bot the ADC + you should probably be able to finish someone off. The burst from a support is all bonus. + Sona can really lay the burst down quite hard these days...so I wouldn't worry too much there.
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BloBBloB99 wrote:

@Pikachu: I feel our team needs a bit more damage in ganks and whatnot, so I'd really like to skip thoose items.
Our top is Vlad and our bot is Sona, whereas none like the Frozen Heart. If everybody are AD (or atleast 4), I would buy it though.
It's kinda the same with Randuin. They choose to not buy a HoG in the first place.


Like I said, my opinion, you can take it or leave it. That would present a problem with that team comp though, but surely your top and support play other tops and supports to prevent being countered?

Sona probably would build a Randuin's eventually, as she's already building a HoG (or, she should be).

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Rammus is easily counterjungled and isn't a safe pick but if the enemies let you, sure pick it.

I'd say go
Philo Hog boots Aegis

And consider stuff that Nautilus and Alistar build with their jungle.

IMO you could also consider Rylai but everyone hates on it.
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