Last Wisper or Black Cleaver?

[quote=React]Which is better for ArP and with master Yi?[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Depends on the situation. Personally I like getting a Youmuu's so getting % ArP after that would just be inefficient so I follow it up with a Black Cleaver if I do need any extra ArP. Although, if you don't find any use in Youmuu's on Yi, getting a Black Cleaver given the situation that the enemy team is stacking little to no armor sounds reasonable. If they get a shitload of armor gogo Last Whisper.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Since Yi usually runs Youmuu's/Stark's or some variant of it, I'd go with Cleaver instead of LW. If you happen to not be running Youmuu's/Stark's, then sure, grab Ghostblade. As B-Wong said, any flat ArP you already have makes LW more inefficient.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]it depends on how much armor they have.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]Last whisper is situational, and is best the enemy is stacking armor.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Even if they're stacking armor Ghostblade (and flat ArP) is usually best on melee carries.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]TBH none unless you have a tank heavy team stacking armor. Go with ArP marks n quits and get Stark... that is all you need basicly. I wouldnt recomend LW in any way... flat ArP > LW[/quote]

[quote=Searz]For most melee carries, yes. But on ranged carries LW is usually better. Stark's is kind of a meh item tho.. The only area it shines in is sustained pushes.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]youmu + runes + stark + BC + masteries = 116 arp youmu + runes + stark + masteries = 71 arp the enemy need to have at least 300 armor to make the arp from last whisper worth it and i dont talk about the AD/AS its even more for champs with built in flat arp like Olaf dont forget the %arp is after the flat so its worth only if - the enemy have VERY heavy armor - you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game - you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=AnIh] youmu + runes + stark + BC + masteries = 116 arp youmu + runes + stark + masteries = 71 arp the enemy need to have at least 300 armor to make the arp from last whisper worth it and i dont talk about the AD/AS[/quote] Stark has a lot of HP reg. Because of that it's very ineffective in terms of damage per second and thus a kinda bad carry item... Don't get it on carries. [quote]dont forget the %arp is after the flat so its worth only if - the enemy have VERY heavy armor - you have no flat arp items at all, then runes + masteries give you nice dmg early/mid and last whisper end game - you have % armor pen with skills , like urgot or jarvan which naturaly reduce the effectivness of flat arp ps : i think its worth writing a guide on spell&armor penetration very few ppl are aware of how it work[/quote] Urgot and Jarvan both have %armor [u]reduction[/u] and it does not reduce the effectiveness of flat ArP. ALL kinds of penetration/reduction are less effective with %penetration. We should have a guide on this, but you don't know the mechanics so don't write one..[/quote]