Shen post buffs.

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, also only the components of [[rylai's crystal scepter]] help [[shen]] very much. Same counts for [[guardian angel]]. Means, [[shen]] can use AP, HP, Armor and mres very good.^^ So you mean something like that: [icon=mercury's treads size=64][icon=Rylai's crystal scepter size=64][icon=guardian angel size=64][icon=sunfire cape size=64][icon=rabadon's deathcap size=64][icon=lich bane size=64] Well, I think, now you don't have enough mres and HP to resist burst...(this is mainly why [[warmog's armor]] was in there...) Also [[warmog's armor]] is a big part of your damage.^^[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]rylai GA warmogg raba lich would be solid. Sunfire is just a bad item.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]@Nickname Thats why I wanted Abyssal in there. Yeah, Sunfire isnt that great of an item, but at least it contains Hp and armor, allowing me to skip Zhonya's for another item like Abyssal for example. Dont like using a slot for 1 stat only while I dont have the item variety to make up for it. The choice of equip is just too meagre. For example: You realize that you wont need protection from one dmg type during the match, - no need for mr: but you wanted to build that Abyssal for dmg? - no need for armor: but that Zhonya's would come in quite handy?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=DuffTime] rylai GA warmogg raba lich would be solid. Sunfire is just a bad item. [/quote] Hmm, do you have enough armor with that? I mean, most teams are actually physical damage heavy. I would definitly replace 1 item with more armor. Or do you run armor quints?(I like to run MS-Quints on [[shen]])[/quote]

[quote=Is Goku]Rylai's is kinda expensive to start out with, I'm thinking instead of building Lich Bane so late, maybe get an early sheen and then build Rylai's? Doesn't give you as much early tank, but I've always found myself as being more of the offensive mindset anyways ;)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I'm not talking build order just final items. Soon Shen's shield may give a large armor buff :)[/quote]

[quote=viper459]what you're going for sound like the build i devised, feels pretty solid though i haven't played it much yet, been very absorbed in another game :) anyway, i use [[mercury's threads]],[[heart of gold]],[[sheen]], [[giant's belt]] as first few items, final items being [[rylai's crystal scepter]],[[warmog's armor]],[[Lich Bane]],[[Abyssal Scepter]],[[Randuin's Omen]]. that's nearly 10k effective hp with 230 ap, not counting runes.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]He can already solo top perfectly and actually he's a great underdog as he does a lot of earlygame damage and has a lot of sustain. People are just fucking bad at him because he takes A LOT of skill to play. My friend plays shen top occasionally and just rapes. Shen buff will make him noobfriendly again, that's all.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Actually he is pretty average or bad and noob-friendly is just codeword for good champion / strong in lane :P[/quote]

[quote=marisi]I think it's just stupid that riot buffs shen again. He is just amazing now. I play shen solo top and he is GODLIKE there. He shuts many strong solo top champions down like: gp, ire, wukong, nasus, garen, fizz. You just make them pay for trying to harras you by spamming your q. He is an amazing counter pick to many champs and denies most solo top champs. Last 3 normal games I played with shen I got 5/0/10, 8/2/20 and 5/6/18.[/quote]