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Some critics on LoL

Creator: panagia December 27, 2011 11:39am
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Wintermond wrote:



Every champion is viable in all solo queue games, you only have to know how to play him.

And I don't see a problem with champions that are relatively stronger than others.



Sadly no. Riot seriously SUCK at balancing. They want money of course, like everyone else. Yet, they want money so bad they don't make the right changes because they,re afraid to lose popularity, AKA money, wich is understandable.

Put Annie vs Anivia mid. Then come tell me this game is balanced.

Anivia has THE hardest skillshot of the game, that stun for 1 sec. While Annie has even more burst than Anivia with a better stun (1.75sec) that happen to be a click-to-target stun. If you think every champion is viable, I don't think we're playing the same game.

Put Ashe vs Graves bot. Then come and tell me this game is balanced. Graves is seriously broken as **** ( I know, I play him a lot right now. Free ELO gain ftw.) In fact, he's been broken sicne released. True, Riot nerfed him. But they NEVER nerfed what made him OP. His skills base damage and ridiculously high ratio.

I could go on an go on about how badly unbalanced this game is.

Please tell me you where joking when you said all champions were viable (therefore balanced). Because they're not. Not at all.

TL;DR: No matter what Riot does, Flash will always be the most liked spell. The reason is simple, it give you a chance to position yourself in a better way. 50% of champions have no escape mechanism. Flash is their escape mechanism. Better get used to it.

IMO, Riot need to sit down for a sec, stop making a ****ing champion every 3 days and ****ing balance the 90 or so champions in the game. Make it more balanced.

When I look at Riot, all I can see is Blizzard. Blizzard released Vanilla WoW and made lots of many. Yet, Blizzard wanted money. More money, ignoring the community and doing some pretty ******ed stuff to gain more money. Result? They made money true. They made a **** load of money. But at what cost? WoW. That was the cost. Blizzard destroyed that game just to get a bit more money.

Sadly, I feel like Riot is doing the exact same thing right now. They want money and don't give a **** about the community and the game, just like Blizzard did. Slowly, Riot is destroying LoL. Bit by bit. Exacly like Blizzard did.

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TheJohn wrote:

You have never seen me playing, so you cant say this kind of thing

I'm glad I've been spared from that awful experience.
From what I've seen of you I can safely say that you're probably a nab.
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Searz wrote:


I'm glad I've been spared from that awful experience.
From what I've seen of you I can safely say that you're probably a nab.


No need to be a **** Searz >.> You could've just leave it there as it was and not reply. It's like he was attacking you or anything.

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All champions are viable.
That doesn't mean they are balanced.

Anivia and Annie are about equal, Annie is just way easier.

Graves is strong, but not even ban worthy atm. He was stronger before the nerfs.
Ashe is just a weak laner. Shes excellent later on.

Flash is not the best summoner spell, the patch put it into exact the right place.
Ghost is the superior mobility spell for champs with dashes or blinks and Flash is the superior choice for champs with MS steroids.

Heal and Cleanse are probably the strongest summoners out there atm.

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@Fox Rage
You're wrong on so many levels..
You're not good enough to talk about this stuff anyways...
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I never said flash waqs the best spell. I said it was the most picken and explained why.

As for grave: lol no.

You think THE hardest skillshot in the game that stun for 1 sec is balanced compared to all the click-to-target 2 sec stun, is balanced? Seriously? As I said, Annie has a better burst (giving the same runes and same items as Anivia) but with a longer stun that is close-to impossible to miss (damn that Sanguine Pool). If you disagree that Anni has a better burst, go do the math. Anivia will get ****ed up really hard by any mid who knows how to dodge such a slow skillshot, AKA anyone with something that look like a brain.


I agree with cleanse and heal trought.

@Searz : you THINK i'm wrong. Give me a proof and i'll believe I am wrong. Until then, thank you for not being a jerk to everyone in this thread. It's kinda annoying seing you say everyone's bad and they got everything wrong when you can't even use 1 argument to prove what you say. I mean dude. Seriously. You can't just come out of nowhere and say '' You,re wrong and you suck'' without even giving an argument. Ever heard of respect?

I didn,t came out of nowhere and said '' lol Wintermond (sorry for using you as an exemple, no offense) you're so wrong. Learn to play before talking'' like you did for me and TheJohn. No. Because I have something called respect. I told Wintermond I didn't agree, and explained why with arguments and exemples. I didn,t came out of nowhere and *****ed at him. That's just not cool man, especially from a vet, who is normally suppose to setup an exemple.

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It's very clear from what I've seen that you're a player who doesn't have a good grasp of the game.
Discussing balance when you don't have your facts straight is a waste of time.

For example; the fact that you think Annie is better than Anivia is a clear sign of low skill levels. Why? Because Anivia has a much higher skill cap and requires a lot more skill to play than Annie. The only problem with Anivia is that her mana costs are a little too high, especially her Q and wall. Other than that Anivia is a very strong AP carry. Equally strong or even stronger than Annie.

I'm just laying the facts out there. Don't shoot the messenger.
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1. This is a blog post essentially
2. There is no theorycrafting involved
3. Post is a rant
4. Arguments, opinions, and "facts" here, are just untrue.

This simply does not belong in this subforum regardless of how I feel.
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Fox Rage wrote:

I never said flash waqs the best spell. I said it was the most picken and explained why.

As for grave: lol no.

You think THE hardest skillshot in the game that stun for 1 sec is balanced compared to all the click-to-target 2 sec stun, is balanced? Seriously? As I said, Annie has a better burst (giving the same runes and same items as Anivia) but with a longer stun that is close-to impossible to miss (damn that Sanguine Pool). If you disagree that Anni has a better burst, go do the math. Anivia will get ****ed up really hard by any mid who knows how to dodge such a slow skillshot, AKA anyone with something that look like a brain.

I agree with cleanse and heal trought.


Vayne and Corki are both stronger than Graves atm, Graves has a strong lane and that's about it. He is average in lategame.

Anivia is a more potent AP carry for quite a few reasons:
-She has a wall that can be used defensively and offensively, and has a countless number of other uses.
-She has two AoE slows and one AoE stun. Her Q might be hard to place for new players, but players who got Anivia down change games with her Q alone.(Look at Ocelotes or Shusheis Anivia, thats ****ing scary)
-She has a very high range and is a very safe pick for her lane and for fights because of that.
-Her egg also makes her a very safe pick for lane and fights.
-She is one of the least AP-dependant caster carrys ingame.



I agree that Annie can have more burst, but she's a risky pick due to one make-or-break combo(Kinda like Veigar), one of the reasons she doesnt get picked very much nowadays even tho she has good potential in the right comps.


Regarding the balancing:
If all champs would be equally strong, I'd find the game kinda boring and not really challenging.
Riot also already stated that they dont want all champions to be equally strong.

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@Fox, Graves is more or less balanced now. Vayne is a lot stronger than him.

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