The End-all jungle thread.

[quote=Lugignaf]I meant, Xai, Mr. 1700 ELO, said he was terrible and now, stonewall, unknown ELO to me, says he's super good.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Jebus McAzn] i never said jungle maokai was bad o.o jungle nasus i'm still iffy on but if it becomes fotm eventually i'll eat my words [/quote] until his Q has a low as shit cap, then jungle nasus will be bad. He doesn't have a whole lot of power in the jungle anyways - though his ganks are pretty good.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Trojan995] [quote=Jebus McAzn] i never said jungle maokai was bad o.o jungle nasus i'm still iffy on but if it becomes fotm eventually i'll eat my words [/quote] until his Q has a low as shit cap, then jungle nasus will be bad. He doesn't have a whole lot of power in the jungle anyways - though his ganks are pretty good. [/quote] Actually... Nasus is bad in the jungle BECAUSE his Q has no cap. If it didn't, there would be no reason not to jungle him because his lane is SO terrible early on.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]About Maokai - He's actually a REALLY strong counter jungler and ganker, he just lacks in sustained jungling and how it fits into his build... Other than that, I'm surprised there's no Olaf or Jarvan, I'd be able to think of more, but whatever.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The list right now is the people I have experience with and that people have told me about. I don't own either Jarvan or Olaf so, if you have jungle info on them, preferably in Jebus' format, please leave it here.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Lugignaf] The list right now is the people I have experience with and that people have told me about. I don't own either Jarvan or Olaf so, if you have jungle info on them, preferably in Jebus' format, please leave it here. [/quote] I'll go through champions and make a list.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Ahhh, I see! Well I made some comments on Maokai! Olaf is the fastest jungler in the game (tested by actual times), but other than that he doesn't have much going for him. He can 1v1 pretty well, but his ganks are kind of bad. Thankfully he isn't TOO bad at sustained jungling. For Jarvan - Deadly early game and post-6 ganks, very strong counter jungle, but his build is greatly effected by having to throw a Cloth Armour in there somewhere, he either has to get a Wriggle's (which you don't usually get) or build something out of it, and there isn't much that Jarvan wants, you don't need a Randuin's THAT early... Decent survivability from his flag, but nothing to write home about. For Yi - Terrible survivability, but decent speeds and a pretty good item from the build makes him a pretty good choice. Ganks can put a lot of pressure on if he has red buff too, without red his ganks are laughable if the laner doesn't have a heavy CC or red buff. Also, Nocturne really doesn't need blue... I play Nocturne a lot, I only ever need the first one, I don't build any mana/mana regen items and I never run oom :/ That's all I can be bothered to post for now.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Is Olaf still the fastest? I believe that Yi and Udyr are potentially just as fast, if not faster.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Yi isn't that fast.. (If I remember properly)[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Jebus McAzn] Is Olaf still the fastest? I believe that Yi and Udyr are potentially just as fast, if not faster. [/quote] Pheonix udyr is about 10 second slower, Yi is potentially as fast, but will probably never actually be that fast in a real game. (read: Not dependably THAT fast, but he's still super quick)[/quote]