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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Why build Blade of the Ruined King on Lucian?

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    Why build Blade of the Ruined King on Lucian?

    So, with the changes to Bloodthirster, I have been seeing people who play Lucian build BotRK. This simply does not make sense to me, because no changes were made to Lucian, just the items. Lucian is a caster adc, isnt he? And BotRK is geared towards auto attack champions, which Lucian is not. So, even with the changes, isnt Bloodthirster and Tri Force still a more liable pick on him?

    Also, why has Bloodthirster been disowned by the community? I honestly feel like its being highly underetimated right now, but everyone seems to disagree with me.
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    Vynertje (386) | June 29, 2014 7:50am
    1. BT sucks; costs 300 gold more, gives 20 less ad when stacked and 5% less lifesteal.

    2. Blade always was a decent item for Lucian going into late game. It'd make him unkillable due to the active. It didn't get majorly changed and the change to %damage is overall a slight buff

    3. Blade into youmuu's is a very powerful combo with the latter getting buffed.
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    FalseoGod (316) | June 30, 2014 5:58am
    Also, there was an argument when Lucian came out about which of the two suited him best, not only because BotRK made him harder to reach but also how it gave his ult some extra hits and how it proc'ed with his passive. The conclusion was that the raw stats on BT made it a really strong lane rush in comparison. With the BT nerf, the alternative lifesteal item was a nobrainer
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    Pinks (10) | July 2, 2014 10:30pm
    The new Blade of the Ruined King has added % hp damage, therefore allowing you to have more burst with your full combo. It also allows you to duel power spiking champs such as Quinn and Vayne.

    That being said, the old Bloodthirster would be considered better than the new Blade of the Ruined King because the Bonus AD would average into higher damage than the attack speed, active, and % hp damage bonus of the botrk.

    Also, Blade of the Ruined King and Youmuu's Ghostblade combo is the current power spike meta of patch 4.1x. Therefore, most champions that rush this and can utilize these items effectively have the advantage as of now.

    Caitlyn will always be an exception to any of these changes, because they won't nerf Infinity Edge anytime soon, if ever.
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    TaoistAngel | April 18, 2016 9:22am
    Easy, regardless of whether or not BoRK got nerfed to almost sh*t this patch, it still does the percentage health dmg.. And since you get a "second shot" with every ability use, it will do the %Health dmg. on both shots. And your Q uses on hit effects, so if you hit your Q and your double shot, thats aprx. 18% of their health, and thats if it doesnt crit, and w/o all the other items. So regardless of whether or not it got nerfed its still extremely viable on Lucian, and other 3 shot adc's like Vayne, or even Ashe if you roll like that!!
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    The Pink Poro (11) | July 10, 2014 1:23pm
    People have been building Blade of the Ruined King on Lucian for two main reasons.
    1. His ultimate ability The Culling gets more shots over the duration when Lucian builds more attack speed. With 40% attack speed from Blade of the Ruined King, that quite a few more shots.
    2. Additionally, as a few people have said, he procs the passive on the item faster than most other marksmen champions. Add that to the fact that 4.11 (or was it 4.10?) changed the passive component from 5% hp as bonus damage to 8%, and you have someone who can chunk you for upwards of 20% of your max hp in one auto. And that's not even factoring in critical hit change or a Trinity Force proc.
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    Zordagoth (19) | June 29, 2014 7:01am
    The passive of the Blade of the Ruined King has been up recently and Lucian passive can proc it two times easily, also it add attack speed for your ult.

    The Bloodthirster is decent now but not to rush, cos it gives you less raw power than Infinity Edge or Blade of the Ruined King

    That being said, Bloodthirster is still good on Lucian
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    semitope | October 13, 2014 2:20pm
    80 attack damage and 20% lifesteal? If you have dancer etc already then definitely go BT. if you want the lifesteal from botrk just get a scepter.

    As far as I am concerned botrk is a build killer. Ruins an adcs dmg output unless she has some %health dmg like vayne. The dmg from botrk is %current life. Anything you can output with botrk you can output better with another item and considering the burst on luc, he should be getting something heavier on AD anyway. I have seen people go botrk ghostblade for a total of 55 ad...

    ONE BF sword comes really close to that.
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    emoriam (287) | June 29, 2014 8:28am
    Just repeating what I've heard so far because BT and Youmuu's seem to suit well to their (combat) stats
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    Vynertje (386) | June 29, 2014 8:26am
    @ Emoriam: even draven/graves will want to start IE/bork first. Only in very late game you can consider getting BT
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    Vynertje (386) | June 29, 2014 8:25am
    It's not just 'kinda sucky', it's really bad compared to what it was - less stats and higher price. In 90% of your games you should go for BORK - even in late game-, unless the attack speed goes to waste (tristana sometimes hits the 2.5 as cap) or if you don't need the passive at all.
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    emoriam (287) | June 29, 2014 8:19am
    And he didn't say god :p
    Blade of the Ruined King or Infinity Edge are the two options now. I guess only Draven and Graves will still work decently with Bloodthirster
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    Zordagoth (19) | June 29, 2014 8:13am
    I said good, not god ;)
    Ofc bt is kinda sucky compared to what it was, but it's still decent.
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    Vynertje (386) | June 29, 2014 7:51am
    "That being said, The Bloodthirster is still good on Lucian"

    It isn't.
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    Zordagoth (19) | June 29, 2014 7:41am
    dude "The The Bloodthirster is decent now but not to rush"
    Can you read ? xD
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    Vynertje (386) | June 29, 2014 7:40am
    bt sucks early game
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    Ubnoxius (61) | June 29, 2014 8:15am
    because wildturtle
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