7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Luther3000]I don't understand how anyone could possibly enjoy it. Playing against invincible tanks with no way to outplay every game is really boring.[/quote]

[quote=emoriam]I guess he's just simply playing the tanks himself. Why would you care about the other guys then? :p[/quote]

[quote=Blian]I'm away for only 10 days and [[Udyr]] jungle, [[Irelia]] support and [[Urgot]] top/mid in the pro scene :D[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]can we just go back to carry junglers please[/quote]

[quote=Blian]just wondering, can [[Shen]] make a come back at some point or he has fallen way too behind since S3?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]He is actually working pretty decent, just hard to play, especially in solo queue. Is taunt widh is so small, that it is very hard to hit. Play him as jungler with [[smite]]+[[teleport]] and a full tank build. You can even go for splitpush with [[Zz'rot Portal]] and [[banner of command]]. You basically abuse all your tp's to be where your team needs you while otherwise you are mostly farming your tanky build. Full Clear with him (6 camps) takes ~4 mins and speeds up a bit after [[Enchantment: Cinderhulk]]. With a good leash and a Krugs start he can go through the jungle without the use of any potion.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]Just had one in a solo q game. Shen, along with me as lulu, janna and nautlis + a vayne. Let's just say he worked SO well. Set up some sexy naut ults/lulu ults and was in general very very useful :D Basically, awesome in protect the adc comps :>[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth]So yeah, it takes a bit of coordination but [[Shen]] can [[Stand United]] to [[Kalista]]'s oathsworn and then Kalista can use [[Fate's Call]] on the oathsworn and then the oathsworn can lob themselves and [[Shen]] into your team. Say that twice fast. And wonder after WTF happened.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Luther3000]I don't understand how anyone could possibly enjoy it. Playing against invincible tanks with no way to outplay every game is really boring.[/quote] id rather play against something that doesnt die than something that kills me instantly[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Most things that kill you instantly have counterplay unless they're fed. Right now it seems like the only counterplay to most of these health stacking tanks is to farm until you have five or six items. If you hit them, they're doing their job (and you're probably dying to thornmail); if you try to avoid them and focus carries they zone you out or lock you up. Whatever decision you make plays right into their hands, and just standing there hitting a guy and watching his healthbar not even move is boring as fuck. Probably biased since I only play AD and I hate playing hypercarries though. :^)[/quote]