7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=utopus][[soraka]]'s roams are also a lot worse than like, [[shen]], [[alistar]], [[leona]], or [[tahm kench]]'s roams. She completely dicks on opponents in lane tho[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=TheSilverDust]What ARE her counters, anyway?[/quote]I find that things that can just poke her down easily tend to do a pretty good job of dealing with her in lane. If you can keep her health fairly low, she really can't do as much in a trade. [quote=OTGBionicArm]With the right comp her counters are kind of moot. Can't kill her if a beef wall with CC isn't letting you. And even the dumbest soraka players know to stay far the fuck back lol.[/quote]That wall of beef doesn't generally prevent you from making her laning really difficult, which isn't really that hard since she's really squishy and not particularly fast either. I'm aware that outside of lane it's harder to counter her, but that has more to do with the stupid change to grievous wounds than [[Soraka]].[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]poke champions are countered by sustain though, when I'm playing soraka against a poke lane I just completely range them and basically let my ADC take the poke and heal him up.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Mooninites]poke champions are countered by sustain though, when I'm playing soraka against a poke lane I just completely range them and basically let my ADC take the poke and heal him up.[/quote] Yeah, and even when you get Sorakas that play up in the lane, your average Joe still attacks the ADC. Personally, I feel like I wouldn't mind Soraka if either a) It costs more to heal someone or if b) The amount she heals off [[Starcall]] is based on [[Starcall]]'s rank and not [[Astral Blessing]]'s. Sorakas keep her allies healthy really well, but come mid-late game, Sorakas are a heavy source of focus and tend to die quite often. I just feel like if she had less self-sustain early game, she would be manageable. Make it so poke and self damage on Soraka stays on Soraka during lane. Afterwards, I feel like she's fine, hence make the heal scale with Q.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Mooninites]poke champions are countered by sustain though, when I'm playing soraka against a poke lane I just completely range them and basically let my ADC take the poke and heal him up.[/quote] Personally, I feel like I wouldn't mind Soraka if either a) It costs more to heal someone or if b) The amount she heals off [[Starcall]] is based on [[Starcall]]'s rank and not [[Astral Blessing]]'s. Sorakas keep her allies healthy really well, but come mid-late game, Sorakas are a heavy source of focus and tend to die quite often. I just feel like if she had less self-sustain early game, she would be manageable. Make it so poke and self damage on Soraka stays on Soraka during lane. Afterwards, I feel like she's fine, hence make the heal scale with Q.[/quote] Either up the cd on her heal or revert the Grievous Wounds change; [[Soraka]] isn't supposed to heal through burst and the fact her heal is on such a low cool down literally takes all the decision-making out of playing her.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]What do you think about [[akali]] atm? I saw people go a rather tankier route with her with [[sunfire cape]] + [[abyssal scepter]] first and then into more standard items like [[hextech gunblade]], [[luden's echo]], [[zhonya's hourglass]], etc.. Also, they put 0 points in Q and max E straight out.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I think if Tank [[akali]] were viable, it would have been discovered before the 6th season already.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]1 thing that nearly nobody noticed about Akali: Her E has a freaking 1 second cooldown at max rank and deals physical damage, nobody expects Akali to deal nearly only physical damage. It also has a total AD scaling. 2 new things: Way higher base damage through [[thunderlord's decree]] and trinkets can no longer reveal her.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I used to play AD [[Akali]] when I got her in ARAMs[/quote]

[quote=Embracing][quote=NicknameMy]1 thing that nearly nobody noticed about Akali: Her E has a freaking 1 second cooldown at max rank and deals physical damage, nobody expects Akali to deal nearly only physical damage. It also has a total AD scaling. 2 new things: Way higher base damage through [[thunderlord's decree]] and trinkets can no longer reveal her.[/quote] ya except ur energy goes to 0 after spamming it only useful in lane for small trades lol esp with that delayed e animation[/quote]