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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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@Embracing Nidalee in solo queue just runs around killing everyone because runic echoes is an overtuned item and her clear speed + damage overall is just nuts.

Nidalee in competitive is way different. Obviously she doesn't just pubstomp everyone in pro games,(usually) but she still demands massive earlygame respect due to her burst and dueling power. In pro play she instead functions as a sort of "guard" for the river and the rest of the team so to speak. She drops wards around and tries to hunt the enemy jungler at every opportunity to open up the lanes to run over their opponents. Later, she just adds more to sieges. G2 vs Fnatic today was a pretty good example of this if you are curious of it in action.

@GMD depends on their entrance really. although the world leaders will probably have a bigger say than me in it. probably.

@Blitzball Thunderlord's 100% on corki. On ezreal, fervor is better if you are teamfight oriented, but thunderlord's is way stronger in lane, so usually you take that instead. Twitch is situationally good. When hes got peel and a lane he can survive in, he can just 1v5.

@Shuru Rek'sai is still solid. Shes a bit more popular right now because shes got a decent matchup into elise who is the best jungler atm. The safest jungle pick in the game right now. Good farm speed, good early pressure, and decent teamfighting.

@Falseogod Lack of data. Saw her a bit around release, but I have nearly 100 games on the new season already, and I don't think I've seen her even once. I feel like she needs too much setup to work, when she only brings damage. Even if it is a ton of damage. (I know it is a ton of damage)

@Thalia I'll give him a few tries soon enough. I spammed Kha'Zix at his power height back in S4, (It was what actually got me to challenger in soloq for the first time ever) so I definitely know my way around the champ.

I'll probably start updating consistently week by week. Would anybody be interested if I had a video where I outline the biggest changes of the week to go with the update?
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[NEW EFFECT] Passive heal now also has a .3 bonus AD ratio.
[NEW EFFECT] Passive now also includes " and critically strikes his target for 40/50/60/70/80% additional damage."

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I'll probably start updating consistently week by week. Would anybody be interested if I had a video where I outline the biggest changes of the week to go with the update?

It might sound strange, but I think I'd still prefer updates to the tier list through posts. That way, it'll be easier for me to track and make sense of the questions some people ask you.
If you were to make a video of anything, i'd prefer it to be about some of the interesting things happening to you in the challenger scene.
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utopus wrote:

It might sound strange, but I think I'd still prefer updates to the tier list through posts. That way, it'll be easier for me to track and make sense of the questions some people ask you.
If you were to make a video of anything, i'd prefer it to be about some of the interesting things happening to you in the challenger scene.


eh i can do both in the same video probably. im only playing collegiate right now anyway.
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Is getting Sightstone on junglers still a thing? Jungle is my secondary role and Tracker's Knife just seems really mediocre compared to the other options, but I also like to get Sweeping Lens/ Oracle Lens most of the time.

EDIT: Probably good to mention that I really only play tanky junglers
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Is getting Sightstone on junglers still a thing? Jungle is my secondary role and Tracker's Knife just seems really mediocre compared to the other options, but I also like to get Sweeping Lens/ Oracle Lens most of the time.

EDIT: Probably good to mention that I really only play tanky junglers

H4x can offer his opinion as well, but personally I hate Sightstone on Junglers right now. You'll see it sometimes in professional play, but even then it's much less common than it used to be. If you're playing a tank jungler, I recommend Tracker's Knife. You can usually do without the dueling/ganking power of the other smites in favor of cheap vision.

If you do go for one of the other Smites, it would probably be safest to build Sightstone after Cinderhulk or your first tank item, but if you're not going Tracker's you're probably building to carry anyway so maybe outside of competitive you just go for selfish tank items.
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I'm mostly just struggling with feeling like there just isn't enough (or properly placed) vision (despite most of my teammates never upgrading their Stealth Ward into anything) and not really being sure what to do about it since I also end up feeling responsible for destroying vision. In a good chunk of the games where I jungle, our support just sits on Stealth Ward the whole game even though they have Sightstone, so I pretty much have to get Sweeping Lens/ Oracle Lens or we won't even have one on the team.
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Vel'Koz in T3 as support - I'd love to know why.

Also, worth learning Poppy to destroy bot lane? That level 2 is so painful.
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Amanda what junglers do you play? Some junglers basically can't do without chilling smite or challenging smite but like Psi said most tank junglers such as reksai or nunu can forego the extra fighting power from a combat smite and get a pretty efficient trackers knife item. I don't think sights tone is worth it outside of competitive play because most junglers that need a combat smite don't have 800 gold or an item slot to blow on sights tone.
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Amanda what junglers do you play? Some junglers basically can't do without chilling smite or challenging smite but like Psi said most tank junglers such as reksai or nunu can forego the extra fighting power from a combat smite and get a pretty efficient trackers knife item. I don't think sights tone is worth it outside of competitive play because most junglers that need a combat smite don't have 800 gold or an item slot to blow on sights tone.
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