Reasons to downvote.

[quote=Alkraan][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Ok, this is really getting on my nerves. I see it all over moba. People downvote for ONE minor thing, like ONE item choice or something. Even on really nice guides, like xai's nid one for instance, where you can see time and effort has been put into them and many people like the guides and +1 them, you always have to have SOMEONE downvoting for the most minor things. When I see vets who do not agree on an item choice but like the guide, they still give +1 but say that the item was not a great choice, why, etc. WHY would people do this? Yes, trolls will be trolls, but nonetheless, if they could make anything even NEARLY as good, why would they give you less recognition among the community because of ONE item. >.> [/quote] Mb... I was talking to him, not u Jebus[/quote]

[quote=Alkraan]Btw, the thing is.. in League of Legends, you can't tell which build is better.. U rushing sorcerers instead of ionians? U rushing marcs instead of berserker? U'd rather get bloodthister than infinity edge? It's ALL a matter of opinion.. u can't say someone is wrong, so, there are NO reasons to downvote someone, if u dislike something, it's a matter of opinion.. And everyone knows when a guide is really bad...[/quote]

[quote=Jet]in league of legends, you can tell what build is better that ashe rushing phantom dancer? that ashe rushing infinity edge? that veigar rushing deathfire grasp? that veigar rushing rabadons? that ashe getting cooldown boots, that ashe getting berserkers? etc[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=Alkraan] [quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Ok, this is really getting on my nerves. I see it all over moba. People downvote for ONE minor thing, like ONE item choice or something. Even on really nice guides, like xai's nid one for instance, where you can see time and effort has been put into them and many people like the guides and +1 them, you always have to have SOMEONE downvoting for the most minor things. When I see vets who do not agree on an item choice but like the guide, they still give +1 but say that the item was not a great choice, why, etc. WHY would people do this? Yes, trolls will be trolls, but nonetheless, if they could make anything even NEARLY as good, why would they give you less recognition among the community because of ONE item. >.> [/quote] Mb... I was talking to him, not u Jebus [/quote] I never said there were no reasons to dv...I said that it is annoying when ppl dv for one tiny thing, when they could recommend what they would do and just not vote or still +1 for everything else/effort. [quote=Jebus McAzn] No, if you think that way, every downvote on every guide would be constructive. And if every author took the time to adjust his build to these comments and every voter took the time to change their vote after the build was adjusted, THEN we'd have "perfect builds" on the site. But, like Communism, human nature will never allow that to happen. And that's a good thing, in my opinion. It makes guide writers have to work harder. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Gravefury]Builds are like their ELO in ranked. Don't troll someone.[/quote]

[quote=ShadowReign757]Ok, let's see, first off, my Katarina build got troll voted with no comments and I was forced to archive it. My Nunu build had only 1 downvote that provided many reasons. My Garen build shot up to number 1 with no down-votes. My Kat build was my first build, with the least work put into it. My Nunu build was good, but not as long as my Garen build. My Garen build was my longest, most detailed guide. The moral of the story is, if you work hard, no matter how many trolls, your guide will shine. With this new vote system, for every 1 troll there is at least 2 intelligent people willing to read it through and leave an opinion, be it good or bad. When you receive a troll down-vote, just suck it up, reply calmly, and get on with your day. If you get many down-votes, put a ton more detail in your guide. If it is beyond fixing, put a ton more detail into it and re-publish it. The only way to make your guide get better ratings is to make sure you explain every detail, fill every crack in your explanation. That takes a very long time to do, so chances are you will get troll votes. I can't stress it enough, I don't care why they down-vote, suck it up, reply calmly, and get on with your life.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Alkraan] Btw, the thing is.. in League of Legends, you can't tell which build is better.. U rushing sorcerers instead of ionians? U rushing marcs instead of berserker? U'd rather get bloodthister than infinity edge? It's ALL a matter of opinion.. u can't say someone is wrong, so, there are NO reasons to downvote someone, if u dislike something, it's a matter of opinion.. And everyone knows when a guide is really bad... [/quote] MPen vs. CDR is almost always a clear-cut victory based on the champ. Merc Treads are almost always universally better than Zerk Greaves. I-Edge is vastly superior to BT in terms of damage. Sorry if it sounds like I'm picking on you, but LoL is a game of math - the same item build, disregarding RNG, will always hit for the same amount with every attack, and there are mathematically proven item builds that can dish out more bang for your buck. Yes, yes, some items and builds are quite situational. If the guide explains these situations and the reasoning for the items, then it's fine. But generally, you can tell when a build is inferior to another. Saying that I-Edge is a better item than The Bloodthirster is not a matter of opinion - it is (GENERALLY) a matter of fact.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]RNG? what's that o-o[/quote]

[quote=Mowen][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] RNG? what's that o-o [/quote] RNG = Random Number Generator AKA "Luck"[/quote]

[quote=ShadowReign757][quote=Jebus McAzn] [quote=Alkraan] Btw, the thing is.. in League of Legends, you can't tell which build is better.. U rushing sorcerers instead of ionians? U rushing marcs instead of berserker? U'd rather get bloodthister than infinity edge? It's ALL a matter of opinion.. u can't say someone is wrong, so, there are NO reasons to downvote someone, if u dislike something, it's a matter of opinion.. And everyone knows when a guide is really bad... [/quote] MPen vs. CDR is almost always a clear-cut victory based on the champ. Merc Treads are almost always universally better than Zerk Greaves. I-Edge is vastly superior to BT in terms of damage. Sorry if it sounds like I'm picking on you, but LoL is a game of math - the same item build, disregarding RNG, will always hit for the same amount with every attack, and there are mathematically proven item builds that can dish out more bang for your buck. Yes, yes, some items and builds are quite situational. If the guide explains these situations and the reasoning for the items, then it's fine. But generally, you can tell when a build is inferior to another. Saying that I-Edge is a better item than The Bloodthirster is not a matter of opinion - it is (GENERALLY) a matter of fact. [/quote] I agree, if you say "Get The Bloodthirster because it has higher damage than Infinity Edge so it is better", then you would be lying. I mean unless you state "IE is better but if you are doing really well and are willing to trade(Insert item name here) for a [[last whisper]] or a [[youmuu's ghostblade]], then grab The Bloodthirster" there is no reason to really bother adding it. Jebus is right, a lot of thing aren't opinion, they're fact.[/quote]