Kassadin Build Guide : Vapora Dark In-Depth Mid Kassadin Guide Season 10

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isn't it better to swap out ravenous hunter for ultimate hunter?

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Soo, in general is it better to go Fleet or Electrocute or it entirely depends on the matchup?

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Matchup as well as personal preference.

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What do you think of Corrupting potion at start instead of Doran's ring ? then getting Dark Seal at 1st back ?

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Hey I've played kassadin for some time and your guide has really helped me but I'm wondering who I should ban when playing him since I just can't really understand which champs are strong against him.

Great guide btw!

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AD champions in general, Talon and Zed are some of the hardest counters, mid lane Tristana too, also mid lane Lucian. I guess the most common counter would be . In general though there's so many easy counterpicks to that you just shouldn't blind pick him if counters is something you're worried about. Instead focus on figuring out which matchups you're comfortable with and saving him for those matchups.

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thanks for the tips, kassadin really feels nice even tho he received the biggest nerf in league history lol

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Thanks for the great guide ,I have been playing him quite a bit recently to try to learn him since he is the only assassins that I can perform decently on ,but since I don't play mobile champs quite often I don't know exactly how to roam undetected on him and utilize the mobility that he has ,if you can would you be able to show some paths that kassadin can take to roam (on either sides of the map) since it will greatly help me progress my roams and understand his mobility better

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This video is for Fizz but it should help you.

Walls you'd want to over are basically just the same locations you'd want to take blast cones over, but also the spots where I point out potential pink ward locations, if a gank looks free AF and you don't want to risk a pink ward being there and calling your gank out, you can just go through your or the enemy jungle.

Especially on the blue buff side of the jungle that massively extends the time it takes to get the gank usually since you have to walk around such a big wall, but with you can just over the blue buff wall so you can ignore potential river wards, and over any wall that would either force you to walk into a common ward spot (like bot lane tri brush) or force you to walk a really long way to avoid it unless you just skip the wall.

Like in that blast cone location where I talk about having a good dive opportunity in the video, if there's no blast cone there at the time you can just that easily. In that same gank path, to avoid potential pinks in the river you can also straight into the enemy jungle from the bottom mid lane brush (ideally you should know you're not about to facecheck into the enemy jungler if you do this).

If this is too risky, you can check the river pixel brush for a pink and if there isn't one, you can walk into the dragon pit and ult over it either into the tri-brush if ganking over-extended enemies who are too far forward to react in time even if they have the tri warded, and if they're not then you can ult over it into the enemy jungle, far enough away from the tri that a ward wouldn't see you, and go over to that blast cone location and either take the blast cone if it's there or ult over it again.

There are too many of these kinds of things to explain over text, I just wanted to give you some examples of how you can abuse your mobility to avoid common ward spots. This warding guide should give you an idea of common ward spots for mid lane/jungle and experience should tell you where side laners tend to ward, use this knowledge coupled with some creativity to figure out the best ways to use your ult to avoid vision.

But also remember that it's not necessarily always the best choice to avoid vision. Maybe you shove out mid and there are no great gank opportunities but you have nothing better to do so you may as well try; rather than avoid the river in case there are pinks there, walk through the river and look for pinks. If there are any, clear them out to deny enemy vision, a reward of its own.

Since your gank wasn't guaranteed to work out anyway, clearing out enemy vision may be a more valuable act anyway. The paths which are designed to try and ignore enemy vision as much as possible are only for when you really want to get the gank off, if you know it has a good chance of success. Otherwise, clearing out vision is a good alternative.

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Thanks a lot for the reply ,that definitely helps a lot more to understand the use of Riftwalk and roaming opportunities

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if you in eune join my club HowToKas or add me as friend my name in game is Buzdon ty :)

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what runes are better your runes or
SORCERY
Arcane Comet
Manaflow Band
Transcendence
Gathering Storm
DOMINATION
Sudden Impact
Ravenous Hunter

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You definitely don't want to use Sorcery primary, Electrocute and Fleet Footwork are better keystones.

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ty

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Can I get a detailed explanation on why you prefer not to get tear??

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It simply takes too long to scale up, already takes a while to come online and delays that even further for mana that's usually overkill, and then on top of that it means you have to skip out on either or .

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Is there any point of taking on Kassadin or is better?

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is better since can't easily proc until level 6.

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is better since can't easily proc until level 6.

What about seems to have a better winrate and better damage in lane.

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Hmm yeah, seems to be better since the nerfs, I'll update that.

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Saw people take celerity instead of transcendence what are your thoughts on this?

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It's actually what you're meant to do, I hadn't realized that I haven't updated that.

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So you could say, I helped you? ;)

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You did indeed!

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could be awesome if you made longer guides but thanks! Pretty fine guide.

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Vapora here thinks the mobafire community is full of idiots so i will show him he is wrong now. Here is the link to his op.gg account:https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=vaporadark if you see his kassadin stats he is well below average. I mean 36% win rate 11 games 1.92 kda 153 cs and he has the nerve to make a kassadin guide. So by doing this he basicaly says if you are challenger you have the right to make any guide with any champion you want and people will follow you. That is wrong. He may be challenger but he went there by playing adc not mid and clearly not kassadin. Dont make a generic guide that most of it is coppied from champion.gg just to get points in this site and be first. This is what i had to say the rest is up to you guys. Oh and lastly vapora put a link to your op.gg page so people can see if you can win with your build what are you afraid of that they will see the truth.

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lol

My Kassadin stats in season 6.

My Kassadin stats on my D5 MMR midlane-only smurf.

My season 4 Kassadin stats where I spammed him from P3 to D5 and went 13-0.

I'm not the best Kass in the world, but you literally cherrypicked the only account where I had a single bad season, where I still had a relatively small sample size. I had like 400 games played in season 6 whom I got to D1 with, meanwhile this season I started off with 2-10 winrate. Now it's still 17-19. Does that make me unfit to keep my guide?

All you proved was isn't my best champion because I haven't thus far had great results with him (though I did have some good games) at a D1/master level, which is where those stats come from. I still feel comfortable writing a guide on him though because I know I could easily climb from unranked to Diamond with him, just like I can on any ADC. I don't need to be able to play a champion at my highest possible level just to teach the champion to what for the most part is going to be bronze-plats who know nothing about . And no, I'm not going to create a new account to unranked-to-Diamond from for every single champion I write a guide for just to prove to people like you that I can play them at a higher level than 99% of the playerbase.

And P.S., there are champions I'd have much rather written a guide for than , but my objective first and foremost when writing guides is to replace poor top rated guides. The top rated guide at the time used and built wrong, so I knew I could do a far better job at representing MOBAFire on this champion that I was plenty familiar with, even if he's not my best champion.

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The guy you are reffering too atleast played with the champion and had above average stats with him and by his stats he proved that his build worked and every comment he had was positive. Also he brought something new to the table. You dont use links to your accounts and you have the aame build champion.gg has and the only reason people read your guide is because they see your challenger badge and think you are some kind of god but unlike them i know better you went there playing adc not kassadin so make guides with the champions you main. Lastly you may had these stats previus season but the game has changed alot since then. And as far as i am concerned the only way to judge if a build is wrong or not is by testing it and see if it actually works or not. Also if he was challenger with that build would that make the build correct.

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I don't take reference from champion.gg in the slightest LOL, this is the one guide I've written that just happens to have the same build as champion.gg's most used build. I took reference from www.probuilds.com, and even that wasn't just "copy a random pro's build", it was researching what was most used, what made the most sense, and playtesting to figure out what worked best. The fact that 1 of my 13 guides happens to have the same build as champion.gg through this method is purely coincidential, and it should be pretty easy to see why that could happen when you see how few items are viable on . Kass has a very specific core build and only like one situational item, so it's really not that unlikely to see two different sources having the same build for him. Just look at the top three Kass guides' builds, they're nearly identical. Does that mean we all took our build from champion.gg?

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The guy you are reffering too atleast played with the champion and had above average stats with him and by his stats he proved that his build worked

He had better stats in a lower Elo in a weaker server than the Kass stats you cherrypicked from me. On top of that he's hardstuck plat 5. I don't think you realize just how easy it would be for me to top that if I wanted to. Playing on EUNE I could realistically go 18-0 from unranked to plat 5, having both a far better KDA than him and a 100% win rate compared to his 54% win rate.

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and every comment he had was positive

That tends to be the case for most top rated guides, whether good or not.

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Also he brought something new to the table

He brought something really old that only bronze people do to the table. And it was really, really bad, hence why everyone other than him never uses it.

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the only reason people read your guide is because they see your challenger badge

Except I've only had this for like a month? My most used badges on MOBAFire have been 1. Diamond, 2. Master, and 3. Challenger. I had equal success when I was just Diamond compared to now when I'm Challenger. Same for my Master badge.

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so make guides with the champions you main

I help less people that way.

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And as far as i am concerned the only way to judge if a build is wrong or not is by testing it and see if it actually works or not.

I have. As have pro players.

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Also if he was challenger with that build would that make the build correct.

It would still be terrible, he would be Challenger despite it, not because of it.

Anyway I see what's going on now. You're a friend of that guy's and you're both salty about someone dethroning his guide, hence why he seems to have archived it. And it stings that the guy that wrote this new guide barely even plays .

The issue is his guide lost the #1 spot because his guide was terrible. The only reason I even wrote a Kassadin guide at all was because his guide was terrible. If his build and guide were actually good enough to deserve the #1 spot I wouldn't have bothered at all, because as you observed, while is one of my favourite mid lane champions, mid lane is not my main role and I don't play it too much. But MOBAFire's still a laughing stock in the League community because of guides like his, and I intend to do my part to fix that.

I just realized you implied in the first comment that I was doing this for raffle points LOL. Even if I were undisputed #1 in the rewards leaderboard every single month because of my guides I still only have like a less than 1% chance of winning anything, and I don't care about winning a random skin for a champion I don't play. I was doing this long before the rewards leaderboard was around. It would make more sense for you to accuse me of doing it for stream views; which while admittedly it accelerated the rate at which I write guides, I was still doing this long before I even started streaming, so you'd be wrong there again. I do this because I want to help people and help improve MOBAFire's reputation, and if the best way to do that is by writing guides for champions that aren't necessarily among my favourites (which still arguably is for me), then so be it. If your friend hadn't been part of the problem we wouldn't be having this conversation since I would have happily disregarded writing a Kass guide and kept focusing on my favourite role; but the remaining top rated ADC guides are all far better guides than Aizenvolt's Kassadin guide.

P.S. I might even do an unranked to Diamond on EUNE with just to prove to you how wrong you are (and how superior my build is to Aizenvolt's according to your logic), so stay tuned. Smurfing's always fun anyways and so is , so it wouldn't be a bother at all. ;)

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This is the last comment i mak on this guide. You do a good job taking advantage of people who see only rank. Keep up the good work with this guide the build is good anyway since its standard and literally every single person from gold and above could think about it on his own. The only difference is that you are challengers so you will get more views than them if they make the same guide. This js what i had to say. I did my job informing anyone who is interested about what is really going on here.

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And as far as i am concerned the only way to judge if a build is wrong or not is by testing it and see if it actually works or not.

And here's my last response!

By your own logic my guide and build are both proven to be superior to Aizenvolt's, through my own playtesting.

I don't write guides for champions I can't play.

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sees 3 losses

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The unranked to Diamond Kass only on EUNE is underway. :)

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First of all you reffered to him not me i just thought i could answer you to what you said. Second i dont care about defending him if he wants to do that he can comment. Third your guide has the standard build that any person with basic knowledge of the game would think of.Lasors guide isnt much different. The only thing that seperates your guides is the rank so yeah the only reason they preffer ypur guide is rank. If you made an account with no rank and posted it you would still be second place dont deny it its the truth people see rank first then guide. So your point that your build is supperior would only stand if you made an account that had average rank say gold plat and still went first.

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Well the main difference between his guide and my guide is the prefered summoner spells(I still take teleport sometimes and mention it in my guide) and the general play strategy. My guide is focused on a play style that will have you getting first blood at level 3-5 and then farming it up and only roaming for kills when the situation calls for it, not because you need them. (because you don't with my game play strategy)

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Somebody seems a little butthurt, and it's not Vapora. Have you ever looked at another Vapora build? Have you ever tried them or watched his stream? Dude's solid af and all of his builds/guides are very good for learning champions and for improving on champions you don't normally play. As someone who normally only plays Jungle or Mid, I've had to use Vapora's guides on more than one occasion because of auto-filling into ADC (which is my least played role). So you trying to discredit his guides does literally nothing against his reputation, at least as far as I'm concerned.
To add to what Vapora said about EUNE, I've played on that server, and some of the EUNE plat players play like NA silver players, and I mean no offense by that but it is definitely a "weaker" server. You can have a **** build there and still do extremely well. Vapora is Challenger on EUW. EUW is a "strong" server. The comparison just isn't there. To be challenger on any server, you have to have a strong build and high level mechanics and decision making. You can't just build whatever and make it into challenger. But when you play with people who generally have a skillset of NA bronze/silver, you can pretty much build whatever the hell you want and you'll be able to pull it off if you're a decent player.

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Sadly I'm only Master on EUW, I'm Challenger on RU. :^(

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thought you were hard stuck d4

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I'm sure you'll make it to Challenger, mate.

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Have you read a single word i said. I didnt discredit or talked about any of his guides besides this one. I didnt say he didnt deserve challenger i said that he made a guide with kassadin only for the views and thay he doesnt really play kassadin. Before you fanboy and write bs read the comments.

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The guy does play Kassadin though, are you daft?

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