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「13.21」Saiyans' Challenger Fizz Guide

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League of Legends Build Guide Author Saiyans

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The guide is really well done, I congratulate you on it. Why do you deem night harvester a non viable item right now? I'd think it's a pretty solid alternative to rocketbelt on Fizz, especially because it gives more ability haste

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The reason it's not viable relative to other options is just opportunity cost. You get much more value out of the other two options (Ludens/Rocketbelt)over Night harvester.

The CDR on Night Harvester would be nice, if Fizz would be able to utilize the CDR effectively. Fizz generally doesn't have the mana resource to use the item to full effectiveness (say compared to a champion like vlad or gragas). Which is why I shy away from it, as the other items I recommend can be used to fuller effectiveness depending on the style or situation you're aiming for.

To clarify, it's not a completely terrible item. You can definitely get away with using it in your core, and Night Harvester is a great skirmishing item. However, the goal of my guide is to aim people in the right direction by recommending the most optimal way to build Fizz to increase the chance that they succeed. Adding options that work, but are less effective I think would add confusion and muddy what I think is best.

Thank you for your kind words regarding the guide. We worked very hard on it :)

Thanks!!

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I checked all the good guides for the champions that were in the guide contest, and I can proudly say that I knew that this guide would win, and it did. Congratulations!

Great guide.

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The best Fizz build I've seen here.

im not sure when to go which build for items. when I'm a against mages, what do I go first? hourglass or night harvester? and for melee to?

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Generally it will depend on how the game develops and how much gold you will have on each reset. If we assume you buy tier 2 boots, dorans ring & dark seal before your mythic, consider these factors:

Are you ahead?
Do you have dark seal stacks?
Do they have multiple AP threats?
Do they have high impact ultimates that I can dodge with Zhonya's?
How many AD threats do they have (and will I have to deal with them in the side lane eventually?)

In the case you are snowballing and have 4-10 dark seal stacks, Zhonya's first can be extremely good to protect your shutdown and stacks on dark seal. This works because the dark seal will give you the damage you need to still effectively kill and you will have the defensive active on the Zhonya's.

There will be a lot of cases where you are only slightly ahead, even, or behind, and in these cases I would recommend to build Night Harvester. You don't want to end up in a state versus mages where you are behind and built Zhonya's, and due to this unable to effectively burst them and play out Fizz's kit optimally. The same goes for melee matchups. Imagine you are versus an Ekko who rushed Rocketbelt and you only have Zhonya's. Do you think you will be able to match him in the side lane? Probabaly not.

These are just a couple of examples, but like I said look at my list and try things out for yourself. Of course if you're versus full AD Zhonya's is always strong.

Cheers

(19) |

Really good guide, even thought i believe fizz is a virus that needs to be deleted and erased for ever, but still the content and design is trully beautifull, my congrats!

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haha true, thanks for commenting even though the fish do be annoying for many players

(326) |

This guide is absolutely gorgeous. I really love the formatting and overall presentation you & Vivi did, it looks great. There are a few things that bother me a bit, such as , & being talked about in the guide but not in the cheatsheet as well as there not being an existing build to run with even though it's supposedly a viable item on ? IMO wouldn't be necessary to mention if it's no longer a viable item. You did also mention that is under testing, but if it becomes a good pick for fizz, it'd be pretty good to include that option in the cheatsheet too.

I believe someone already mentioned it but having notes in the cheatsheet would actually help a lot for readers that just want to quickly get some information about what they're running before they're entering their games. Some examples could be having notes on why you run that ability order, how come E is maxed first and Q is maxed last, why you build and a on your first back despite having , when you should pick each rune page (Precision / Resolve) and so forth.

Other than this I think the guide is extremely solid and clean, apart from maybe some matchups where there is an odd amount of empty space for some of them (e.g. under the portrait for Akali / Galio), but otherwise it's astonishing.

I really hope you continue to update this guide for a long time to come. :)

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Thank you for your constructive words!

I plan on continuing to update this guide throughout the months/years to come. I have a spreadsheet of corrections to be made that could make the guide better (such as the cheatsheet/matchups you mention) and as Vivi and I get the time between patches to do so I will be sure to take your words into account when making changes.

Cheers and thanks again!

Saiyans

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Stellar guide! The design, content, and layout all hits just right. You show a clear mastery over not just your champion but also the tools of the site. Keep it up! +1

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Thank you!!

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Please upload your gameplay videos on Youtube too if possible, it's hard to watch streams on twitter for weak internet connections.

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Yes I will try my best going forward- no promises at the current time as I have a very busy schedule

Cheers!

I just tested Liandry and i think is much better than the usual build, what do you think now

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I think when it's your job to deal with the bruiser/tank threats it can be very good. Say you have a situation where your team comp has very little damage (weak or no ADC that can shred tanks).

However, be careful. Sometimes even if there are tank threats it still will be your job first and foremost to kill the squishies, and in this case ludens/night harvester are still better.

One of the best guides I've seen in terms of aesthetic and ease of use. Very well put together, I can see that you put a lot of time and effort into this. Keep up the quality work! You've got my vote.