MOBAFire Season 12 Guide Contest Winners!

[quote=Doody_tco][quote=Jovy] You cannot get an honourable mention in two different role-related categories. When your Miss Fortune guide was chosen by the other judge, I could not choose you for my role regardless of what I wanted to do.[/quote] So you're saying if you "wanted" to put my guide in the winner's list but someone else decided to put my guide in honorobale mention, you cannot argue with them about it? Excuse me, but, what kind of logic is this? And who do you think will take this as an excuse?! [Quote=jovy]The bottom line is that the guide IS updated according when the contest concludes. By updated I mean, if there is a huge change in the patch during the judging period, and it is relevant to the champion the guide is about, then that must be reflected in the guide.[/quote] Again, Taric's guide updated AFTER contest period, why is the guide listed there and not other guide that worked hard durinf contest period if it is really extremely fierce? What happened to: "your guide must be updated throught the contest and judging period to be eligible to win??!!!" If you think that updating a guide both during contest and judging period, then talk with your colleagues to remove it in next guide contest, please!! Otherwise, this contradiction will make many other frustrated. Also, since you are the judge of "support guides" please do remove "add chapters dedicated about lane synergies" from contest criterion because that also conflicts with choosing undated guide winner and with "your" "quality content" criterion. Speaking of "your" ceiteria, while my guide is clearly well presented, neat, digestable and easy to follow and read (not integrating a lot of squares, rectabgles and lines doesn't mean a guide not pleasing to read), the 6 wins in-a-row guide did not put much effort in making a cohesive guide. I wonder where did your third criterion disappear when you were choosing them as a winner. [Quote=jovy]Rather than focusing on the other guides, and tearing down other authors, I believe you should think about what your guide is missing in order to fulfill the other criteria.[/quote] The best way to understand why I wasn't in the winners list is through comparing my guide with the winning guides and see what made them winners and did not made me one, and that is the reason I'm writing long comments in here. While I fully respect the effort made by all guide writers in here, winners and other guide writers, I do believe, again, after comparison, that my guide certainly deseeves to be there and something is certainly not right in being in honorobale mention in a guide I barely updated and not a winner for a guide that exceeded 630k characters in a couple of months that adds far more updated information that is well presented!![/quote]

[quote=TheBlueImperial]Thank you [color=#ff0000][mention=Jovy] [/color] for selecting my [[Rell]] guide as a winner for the Support category, also thanks to [color=#ff0000][mention=Hades4u][/color] and [color=#ff0000][mention=Fruxo] [/color] for selecting me for the Mobile Friendly category. Incredibly grateful for being selected, the best league community out there [color=#00ffff]♥[/color]. A big congratulations to all the other winners and honourable mentions, good to see some returning guides. Thanks to all the judges and a big congratulations to the lovely [color=#0080ff][mention=Silverman43][/color] for his first contest as a Judge.[/quote]

[quote=xblademojo]Big surprise for me once again, thanks to [mention=Yeager] and the whole Mobafire staff! Big-Shoutout to [mention=Katasandra] as well :> Feels really nice to get appreciated for the time and work put into the guide, I will come back soon with new content 😉![/quote]

[quote=Jovy][mention=Doody_tco], I think you are being needlessly disrespectful to the other authors, and if you wish to continue this discussion you should message me in private. However, I will address your points here one more time. [spoiler=x]The main reason why you did not get an honourable mention in the support role is because the ADC judge did not have as many candidates for HM as I did. I did not mind substituting one guide for another, because there were many worthy guides in the support role. Since you get the same prize, it really should not matter. It is simply not possible to get two honourable mentions, and that's all that this boils down to. What you are referring to as my "contest criteria" from the original contest post are not actually judging criteria but tips (as stated in the post) that are meant to help new authors who are unsure of what they could add to their guides to make them better. Synergies and counters are indeed valuable in the guide [b]but[/b] as I stated before, when judging, the [b]#1[/b] criterium for winning is having an optimal build. Even if everything else is correct, a guide that doesn't have an optimal build is not going to be favoured over guides that have an optimal build.[/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=Doody_tco][quote=Jovy][mention=Doody_tco], I think you are being needlessly disrespectful to the other authors, and if you wish to continue this discussion you should message me in private.[/quote] I did not disrespect anyone which ua crystal clear. What I stated is something that you probably missed when you were judging and that's it. I seriously don't know why did you change the course of discussion especially saying that it is not possible to have two honorable mentions when i clearly know that and it was not my point at all. Which makes me to deduce why the argument endee thia way, obviously you do not want to change your choices, or maybe you can't, whatever it is. Pride of human being is strong, but never took humanity to places. And no, I do not wish to discuss this with you in private, obviously this will continue in unconvincing excuses loop which I'd rather invest my time in something more useful, or at least more fun. Regardless, thank you for dedicating your time to reply to my comments. My discussion with you ends here.[/quote]

[quote=Doody_tco]Congratulations to all winners. As for me, enough with unfairness, although I have many game changing information to provide for two supports, this will be the last time I participate in this category... Not unless some serious changes happen. My friend told me if I do not win this time -which we did not expect at all-, then I should spam post inappropriate images. Fortunately and unfortunately, I am not this kind of person, So good for you, everyone! xD[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Respectfully [mention=Doody_tco], if I were supported by a [[yuumi]] with [[flash]] in any of my games I'd consider it griefing. If I were judging the support category and the first thing I see on a [[yuumi]] guide is [[flash]], I'm immediately disregarding it without reading a single word. You have your opinion and the judge has theirs. But they are the judge, not you. There is 0 point to trying to argue with them and trying to overturn their decision, let alone after the results have already been announced.[/quote]

[quote=FatelBlade][quote=Doody_tco][quote=Jovy][mention=Doody_tco], I think you are being needlessly disrespectful to the other authors, and if you wish to continue this discussion you should message me in private.[/quote] I did not disrespect anyone which ua crystal clear. What I stated is something that you probably missed when you were judging and that's it. I seriously don't know why did you change the course of discussion especially saying that it is not possible to have two honorable mentions when i clearly know that and it was not my point at all. Which makes me to deduce why the argument endee thia way, obviously you do not want to change your choices, or maybe you can't, whatever it is. Pride of human being is strong, but never took humanity to places. And no, I do not wish to discuss this with you in private, obviously this will continue in unconvincing excuses loop which I'd rather invest my time in something more useful, or at least more fun. Regardless, thank you for dedicating your time to reply to my comments. My discussion with you ends here.[/quote] yo kid fight me, im fucking jacked and i'll mess you up real talk though I find myself agreeing with vapora dork here and anyone that knows anything knows how wack that is grow up kid also #freemyboymooninites[/quote]

[quote=Asternova]Congratulations to the winners and everyone who participated![/quote]

[quote=L3gislacerator]Congratulations to all the winners and honorable mentions! I'm incredibly grateful to receive an honorable mention this year. This ends my streak, but I'm glad to see other stellar guides rise up to the top. There are some really amazing ones here, from their design and writing to the coding. All this combined inspires me to continue updating my guide to be as comprehensive as possible as the times change and as next contest rolls around. Much appreciation to [mention=Jovy] for everything as well as to the rest of the judges![/quote]