Don't get Warmog's on Shen...

[quote=JunSupport]Saw people suggest Warmog's on Shen in the Mundo thread... I thought I'd do a little hot potato with the item/topic and rant about why it's bad on him. [color=yellow]Shen's [icon=Ki Strike size=22] is NOT worth getting Warmog's.[/color] Try looking at the math. 3.5% of his HP. If you good tanky stack HP items (sunfire, randuin's, aegis, maybe leviathan for the noobs), you still barely end up with 4000~4500. 4500 * 0.035 (3.5%) = 157... + [10 + 5 * level(18)] = 257. His base damage is 116 at level18? 257 + 116 = 373, but that's with max HP. [color=yellow]Warmogs only accounts for 920~1200 of that hp, so you're hitting an extra 32~40 damage thanks to Warmogs every 2~8 seconds in team fights. Whoop-Dee-Doo. [/color] Better if you buy a Rylai + Sunfire after standard Aegis/tank-items to get the increased AP on Q,W,R and the AoE damage. Your damage will go up way higher. Good scaling, and the AoE does 15~30 damage per second after MR's calculated; and you're still going to be hitting 200+ extra on Ki Strikes. Heck an Abyssal Scepter might be a better idea, since KI Strike deals MAGIC DAMAGE. :o[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Abyssal and Sunfire are probably the best damage items on Shen. Rylai works too, but is less useful. You already have a good CC spell. Mundo is probably the only champ I even consider warmog on. But I don't play him much.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Searz: Try Rylai [icon=Rylai's Crystal Scepter size=22] first. It's great when you taunt, they run, and the Vorpal Blade [icon=Vorpal Blade size=22] that stabs them in the head makes them slower. >:D Can be re-applied every few seconds because of the tiny CD too. :) Also, adds nice scaling to your Feint, and Stand United.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]I know >.> But as I said; it's only less useful, not bad..[/quote]

[quote=Jet]thats why i said 6th item games usually over by the time shen can accumulate 15000 gold (hell most games are over before shen finishes a build) but rylais is worse than warmogs. warmogs makes you more bulky (when you already have tonnes of migitation) and gives you regen which can help out of team fights / in team fights with warmogs at that point in the game, you're just going to make take even more focus fire to kill you, which isn't a bad thing. rylais just gives you damage (which isn't really needed) and a slow (also not needed) i mean, if you need the extra migitation, go for resist items, if not, get warmogs, make yourself even more of an annoyance[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Jet: Rylai also scales with Feint and Stand United. +1 And if you want more HP, you could always buy more functional items. Frozen Mallet could be amazing on Shen. Shen has a high base Attack Speed, and FM already offers 700 HP. Constant slow on your Targets for massive effects. I generally grab Randuin's + Force of Nature, top that with Vorpal Blade life taps and I have all the regen I need. Rylai and Frozen Mallet slows would be far more annoying them 200~500 or hp. :P[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]you guys all fail at building shen 3x phantom dancer and executioner's calling is the way to go OT: I'm one of those people that saves my 6th slot for wards, spending my excess money on elixirs. Mainly because nobody else on my team ever gets wards.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Psh, Shurelya's Reverie [icon=Shurelya's Reverie size=22] is pretty fun to play with. WEEEE, Gotta go faster! faster! f-f-f-f-f-f-faster! :D[/quote]

[quote=Jet]it's the regen stack that regen with randuins, base regen and force of nature 200+ hp/5 laughing now?[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Jet: I'm laughing with all the people throwing ignites in your face. Also, the regen only totals about 140~150. :P And that's still only 30~40 per second, which isn't a big deal. Armor, Magic Resist, CC, and unique passives are better. :)[/quote]