So is Warwick like an AP Tank now?

[quote=Searz][quote=B-Wong] Free ward, a lotlotlotlotlot stronger early game (you can hold a lane sooo much easier without blue buff). Better dragon control, stronger ganks (they can't kill you as easily as they would if you had madred's). Sure he doesn't [u]need[/u] wriggle's but I feel like it's a lot better than rushing for the Madred's. I guess it's really personal preference and dependent on how much you've farmed.[/quote] It doesn't provide dragon control. The ONLY thing it really does is give you a free ward every 3min and a little bonus stats. Once you got MBR you'll be way stronger than you would have been with an early wriggles.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]It provides dragon control if your bottom lanemates aren't complete fucktards. Again: Personal preference. I like wriggle's, I feel it's stronger than MBR rushing. Maybe you feel differently, that's cool. You'll play your way I'll play my way (switched from MBR rushing).[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]I don't think Searz understand just how amazing that free ward is, along with the life steal and easy farming procs.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]I just sit on my Madred's, then finish Merc. Threads, and take Rec. Bow. I'll take Spirit Visage pre-MBR, mainly because it isn't that necessary early on. Or is that just me? :)[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Scrax] I just sit on my Madred's, then finish Merc. Threads, and take Rec. Bow. I'll take Spirit Visage pre-MBR, mainly because it isn't that necessary early on. Or is that just me? :) [/quote] I don't feel that it's necessary early on because if you are going to MBR rush you're going to be doing more damage with a Wit's End anyways, people don't have too much HP for your MBR procs to own off of (early on).[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]Exactly why I take boots, bow and SV before it :)[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=B-Wong] [quote=Scrax] I just sit on my Madred's, then finish Merc. Threads, and take Rec. Bow. I'll take Spirit Visage pre-MBR, mainly because it isn't that necessary early on. Or is that just me? :) [/quote] I don't feel that it's necessary early on because if you are going to MBR rush you're going to be doing more damage with a Wit's End anyways, people don't have too much HP for your MBR procs to own off of (early on). [/quote] I'm not arguing for or against this, I'll just state that it is a misconception that the amount of HP a target has actually matters. Regardless of health, 4% of max life with 5 procs on your ult is 20% (before MR). It will always be 20%.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Wit's End is also an awesome early item to have. Maybe it's worth taking over MBR, I gotta try it out some time. The free ward would be the main reason to get Wriggles. I still think you're better off with other items though :/[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Zeprido] I'm not arguing for or against this, I'll just state that it is a misconception that the amount of HP a target has actually matters. Regardless of health, 4% of max life with 5 procs on your ult is 20% (before MR). It will always be 20%. [/quote] Yes, but the question is: Which will do more damage, 42 magic damage or 4% of their max health in magic damage?[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]@Trojan The thresh-hold for that is the HP total of 1050. If a target has less than 1050 HP, then Wits End will deal more damage, however if the target has more than 1050 HP, then MBR will deal more damage.[/quote]