Impressions of Tanky DPS

[quote=jhoijhoi]Hear me out before you lock the thread (as is the case on the official LoL Forums). I don't know what my normal ELO is, so I can't say where I sit. I'm at 328 wins and I think 318 loses. I might have more. Regardless, I'm more or less of an equal w/l ratio. Not sure where that puts me in ELO. What I'm trying to get at is please don't scream "TANKY DPS IS ONLY FOR 200 ELO NUUUUUUUUUUUB!" Anyway, what are your thoughts on Tanky DPS? By Tanky DPS I also mean spam tanky casters (casters with a whole lot of health/armour that deal damage per second through burst - ie Ryze, Rumble), as well as the DPS champions that only need to have tank runes and get all damage items (ie Jarvan, Xin Zhao). This is not a QQ thread. But how do you deal with Tanky DPS when you want to play Sona or Ashe? How can they compete with Irelia, Vayne (don't say Vayne is squishy. Tank Vaynes - ie Tanky DPS - are horrid), Renekton? I'm even talking about Ranked. Even if you have good team composition, if the enemy team decides to go Tanky DPS, no matter their skill level, they're going to succeed. For example in my last Ranked game: My team: Caitlyn (ranged DPS carry) [They insta-locked, don't know why they didn't choose Ashe] Jax (...) [No freaking idea. Jax was so completely useless that game] Brand (AP mid) [decent choice - but gave up First Blood, died before the 2:30 minute mark] Shen (Tank) [had the most kills on our team =.=] Sona (Support) [THEY MADE ME LANE WITH SHEN! WTF! SUPPORT + TANK FOR THE WIN! Sadly, it was ftw, considering Shen and I got the most kills and assists that game =.=] Their team: Jarvan (Tanky DPS) Olaf (Tanky DPS that can't be disabled) Ezreal (Ranged DPS Carry mid) Renekton (Tanky DPS) Ryze (Tanky Caster) Can you guess who won? I just don't know. Then Riot made a champion who can take down Tanky DPS (Vayne). But the problem is when Vayne is part of a Tanky DPS team. Just played a game. Enemy team: Vayne, Jarvan, Xin Zhao, Rumble, Le Blanc. Sure Le Blanc isn't Tanky DPS, but she doesn't have to be, she splits in two when dying and casts insane burst damage while her Tanky DPS just /d under turret fire. *sigh* The fact of the matter is, whenever I manage to get my whole team to go Tanky DPS, we win. May not be immediate hands down win, but we win. Problem is, my friends consider this method cheap and refuse to participate. Where does that leave me? I alone can't carry the team as Tanky DPS if no one else supports me. Prime example is last game. Most assists, most kills as Nasus. Wooo. Immediately shut down, however, thus the team losing their Tanky DPS. [b][color=red]tl;dr [/color][/b]Tanky DPS is unfair, and it's not safe to play squishy champions unless you have an in-built escape mechanism (Ezreal, Nidalee, Le Blanc).[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]It's not unfair at all. Thats my opinion.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'm going to say this once again, Slows, CC and other small disables. Olaf can't be disabled for a few seconds. Run around during that time. The more you run, the less he can land [[Undertow]]. Renekton is very area based. With only one "distance" move, that's also his initiation move, more running around is needed. Jarvan is just BS all around.... In summary, good positioning and slows are the only things needed to take out Tanky/DPS. Items are just a bonus. High HP, Madred's. High resistances, get something they won't expect.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Tanky DPS gets you the win more times than not if your not playing high-elo, that's the facts, now people will say CC counters tanky dps teams, which is true. But more times than not I don't see this happen.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]That's really strange. I honestly thought more people thought Tanky DPS was unfair. I guess I was wrong. I was also wrong about being the sole Tanky DPS on the team and being awesome. As soon as I get home from teaching, I'll render this awesome 1v5 I had as Nasus. Was just awesome. --- Can I ask, what if your team doesn't have many/any stuns and slows?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]It is more anoying than anything ealse ... Pro tip is to build tanky first, then go dmg items. They will not have the dmg to kill people with tank items ;)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=jhoijhoi] That's really strange. I honestly thought more people thought Tanky DPS was unfair. I guess I was wrong. I was also wrong about being the sole Tanky DPS on the team and being awesome. As soon as I get home from teaching, I'll render this awesome 1v5 I had as Nasus. Was just awesome. --- Can I ask, what if your team doesn't have many/any stuns and slows? [/quote] You 1v5ed with Nasus? I can run/survive a 1v5 with him. If your team has no/very few slows, get Hextech Gunblade. It has a built in slow. Then, pick and chose your fights.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=Lugignaf]If your team has no/very few slows, get Hextech Gunblade. It has a built in slow. Then, pick and chose your fights. [/quote] That's good advice. To be honest, [[hextech gunblade]] never crossed my mind. The 1v5 as Nasus was just awesome. Late game 5 enemy champions should tear to shreds anyone. I had a Shen on my team, and I managed to pop my ult (after being stunned), just in time to survive. Nasus is cool like that ^^[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=jhoijhoi] [quote=Lugignaf]If your team has no/very few slows, get Hextech Gunblade. It has a built in slow. Then, pick and chose your fights. [/quote] That's good advice. To be honest, [[hextech gunblade]] never crossed my mind. The 1v5 as Nasus was just awesome. Late game 5 enemy champions should tear to shreds anyone. I had a Shen on my team, and I managed to pop my ult (after being stunned), just in time to survive. Nasus is cool like that ^^ [/quote] Yup his ult end game fed or not is just OP :D[/quote]