Crit/Lifesteal (Infinity Edge/Bloodthirster) on...

[quote=Nighthawk]So some (most?) of you know that i'm an avid Udyr player. He's my main and I love him <3 Lately though i've been filling some roles in my teams and done pretty good. IMO I think tanky dps Udyr is still the best, but lately i've been trying out getting IE/BT on Udyr, going something like this. [[Long Sword]] + [[Health Potion]] + [[Tiger Stance]] or [[Cloth Armor]] + 5[[Health Potion]] + [[Tiger Stance]] [[Wriggle's Lantern]] > [[Phage]]/[[Giant's Belt]]/[[Sheen]]/[[Pickaxe]]/[[Chainvest]] From there it depends on what i'm building. Sometimes I get Phage > Frozen Mallet for better ganks and more survivability, or Phage > Sheen for Triforce and the early damage of Sheen. Or I could get SV early for the Wriggle's and health, BF Sword for tons of damage on Tiger and IE, Chainvest to counter ad and get an Atma's/SFC if i'm tanking...so at any given time my end build could look like any of a LOT of builds... so in your opinion which build order is best for udyr, and which playstyle is best too?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No.. Don't use crit.. Life steal outside of Wriggle is also kinda meh, but BT works to some extent.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Why? Tiger stance critting is pretty big damage. Oh and don't tell me you use Turtle in teamfights a lot cause you really should only use it like once, maybe twice...bear and tiger get the job done.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]As I'm lazy, I'm just gonna leave it as "No". Sorry :P[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I suppose i'm going to ignore your post then lol.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]By investing deep into offense you're overlooking your natural damage potential based just from stances alone and your Triforce procs. Like Trundle, all you really want is Triforce for damage, then you can immediately invest into tanky items. I don't think IE/BT is the way to go - you're not Yi, you're not a glass cannon, and you need to stay alive for as long as possible to stun as often as possible.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]Attack Speed items after tank items if the way to go for udyr.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I never liked Triforce much. It hardly increases your damage at all compared to other items imo. I do agree with Boosh that you get surivability first then damage, but AS is only useful for phoenix and imo tiger is better. Phoenix does have better items though...>.> I just don't think Udyr really is that good played as a tank...he only stuns 1 person or maybe 2 in teamfights and to make a dent in anyone except the carry you need more damage then just a triforce...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I think you should build a gunblade on Udyr! Healing from the proc on his Q and also the active on his R. Think about it.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Nighthawk] I never liked Triforce much. It hardly increases your damage at all compared to other items imo. I just don't think Udyr really is that good played as a tank...he only stuns 1 person or maybe 2 in teamfights and to make a dent in anyone except the carry you need more damage then just a triforce...[/quote] These things are why you fail. Tank is the wrong word for it. It's offtank/tanky DPS. He can buy one or two offensive items then the rest SHOULD be durability.[/quote]