Pantheon.

[quote=Crazy Smurf]Well, i had few Pantheon+Taric matches and I gotta say I owned my opponents like i wanted. I also find Panth to be a counter to most of AD Carries, precisely due to his Passive and high burst with ArP. Any thoughts? How do you like new Pantheon anyway?[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]the problem with pantheon is that this isn't the first time he's been overbuffed. i think most of it happens to be how bad he was before but i wouldn't be surprised if he gets nerfed. just hopefully it won't be like last time, where he was complete shit, then got super buffed for a month, then got nerfed to shit again.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Pantheon's pretty balanced right now. His man-drop is much more responsive, and the bonus-ad scaling works great for stacking raw Attack. He's still squishy which counter-balances his substantial burst mid game. [[Heartseeker Strike]] now only strikes 3 times, so there's no stun->instagib scenarios anymore. Just gotta watch yourself like you can against any other champion. While [[Aegis of Zeonia]] is not a flat 1 second at all ranks, so it's a solid one-point-wonder. Double-stun duo-laners typically have a great time, as they can't be approached. If the enemy missteps once, they eat a chain of stuns and a fair amount of burst/harass. Sion, Taric, Pantheon, Leona, Maokai, Caitlyn, Annie, Alistar, Blitzcrank and many more. Any combination of these champions will always do very well because stuns are strong that way.[/quote]

[quote=Bryun][quote=JunSupport] Pantheon's pretty balanced right now. His man-drop is much more responsive, and the bonus-ad scaling works great for stacking raw Attack. He's still squishy which counter-balances his substantial burst mid game. [[Heartseeker Strike]] now only strikes 3 times, so there's no stun->instagib scenarios anymore. Just gotta watch yourself like you can against any other champion. While [[Aegis of Zeonia]] is not a flat 1 second at all ranks, so it's a solid one-point-wonder. Double-stun duo-laners typically have a great time, as they can't be approached. If the enemy missteps once, they eat a chain of stuns and a fair amount of burst/harass. Sion, Taric, Pantheon, Leona, Maokai, Caitlyn, Annie, Alistar, Blitzcrank and many more. Any combination of these champions will always do very well because stuns are strong that way. [/quote] Yeah he's balanced but have you seen bigfatlp play him. o m g...[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf]Well, what I like now is that Pantheon got a STRONG Buff early game, I mean, with 31 ArP at level 3-5 you can burst some hard motha fucka combo alone + [[Spear Shot]] finishes the job quickly, so IMO, maxing it first is better than maxing [[Heartseeker Strike]] atm. 150 damage each 4 second for 45 Mana? Jesus, it's so good with [[Manamune]] (Yeah, I love Manamune+Atma Panth <3)[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Crazy Smurf: Hahaha, that's what I thought too... for about half a game. HSS is your main damage dealer mid game, I found a better way to do it. Still working out the kinks~[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]ok so, since riot said his q only does 150% damage on a crit, does that mean that with ie it will do 175%? since its half of the bonus from crits...[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I had 1 game with him, but I didn't build enough ArP in runes. I went more with AS to proc his passive. Ultimate feels A LOT BETTER. Spear throw is satisfying. His HSS leaves a little to be desired early game but comes into it's own mid and late game. He's a solid pick and less RNG than he was pre-patch imo.[/quote]

[quote=iEdgecrusher]I really like the new Pantheon. I still feel the heartseeker strike is a little low, although I have wrecked people with it...I just miss the old heartseeker. I hope he stays the way he is now. His spear is on par, if not as good as Nid's with the right build and ruins. :P[/quote]

[quote=Niks]I can't wait to try him out, he's one of those champs I wanted to play for a long time but seeing he was 'useless' for such a long time I didn't bother :v[/quote]