ITT: Skarner's Ult comparisons

[quote=JunSupport]When [[Skarner]] was first released, there were LOADS of comparisons about how [[Rammus]] could effectively use [[Impale]] on a lower cooldown. My initial thought was it doesn't work as well on ranged champions and [[Quicksilver Sash]] or [[Cleanse]] could counter it. But recently, I started playing [[Singed]]. [[Fling]] vs [[Impale]] Even with Tenacity, or Cleanse, you can't reduce the part where Singed throws you 200~400 distance, generally straight into a group of enemies, which is usually the same distance Skarner can pull a target with some extreme exceptions. It is also on a MUCH lower cooldown. And does effectively the same amount of damage on AP Singed because of the superior AP ratio. Does anyone agree? My conclusion from this is that, Impale should have been a normal ability. It should have been a lower cooldown sort of ability (obviously weaker too), and he should have been given a different, but still useful ultimate. Sort of like the way [[Blitzcrank]] and [[Singed]] are now.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Yeah, his ult isn't all that great - that's one of the reasons he isn't very good tbh. I like your idea of Impale as a normal ability, so that could be where that skill that heals him is, and in turn of his ult, he could have some sort of gap closer or some sort of "burrow" which isn't classed as a stealth and lasts for 5/6/7 seconds or something.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]me gusta that idea yea, he is kinda underwhelming, imo btw jun what do you mean "as well as ranged champions" and... ITT?[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I would pretty much agree. It punishes out of position heroes, but Blitz / Singed are still far better at doing so. Skarner doesn't bring much to the table except looking like a boss.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@wRAthoFVuLK: I meant "it doesn't work as well on ranged champions" and ITT stands for "In This Thread"[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]They should just increase the stun time to like 2 seconds.. or 2.5... Would be a bit overpowered but considering that Skarner isn't really that strong.. It would be balanced imo, and make him a good pick.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]seeing as how i've been playing a lot of singed lately i can definitely agree that fling is better in every way. as for what dante suggested, i really think he just needs a few buffs across the board.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Or they could just buff [[Crystal Slash]]'s base damage on all ranks if you're worried about viability. He's weak right now because he needs tons of items to do any damage. It would make him one of the fastest junglers and overall improve his game.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]His ult needs a solid buff. I've been saying this since release.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB][quote=caucheka] seeing as how i've been playing a lot of singed lately i can definitely agree that fling is better in every way. as for what dante suggested, i really think he just needs a few buffs across the board. [/quote] ya and with 4 rod of ages, your fling does more damage than skarner's ult but ya, Skarner's pretty underwhelming, not sure if they're going to buff him. I think Riot planned him out thinking how overpowered the ability to pull enemies out of position is, but they completely forgot that blitz and singed can do it much more often, and often better than skarner can. Since they can't really do a straight up skill overhaul as you mentioned so soon, what they really need to do is buff his damage (cuz he seriously has no base damage) and make his ult last longer. Not too much longer though, the fact that the target is suppressed during it is pretty important.[/quote]