SO when do you think "early game" is...

[quote=Maphis]Usually when the first tower goes down, or when people start roaming a lot more, as for a specific time I'd say around the 18 min mark.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=EvilDice] I don't consider there to really be an early, mid, and late game. I judge it differently. [u]Laning Phase[/u] When all players are in their lanes, farming it up, until towers start to fall and teams start to group up. [u]Roaming phase[/u] This is when teams begin grouping up and pushing lanes. Wards become very important for catching enemies and objectives like buffs and dragon are much more highly contested. Farming still goes on in this phase, but it's much more risky. [u]End game/teamfight phase[/u] This is when all 5 members of each team are completely grouped up at all times. At this point in the game, mistakes lose you the game, so you must be grouped up and have the map warded. Yeah, you can basically divide that into early/mid/late game, but this is how I think of it. [/quote] Just a difference of labels here, I believe. :) Full 5-man roaming can't really occur until all the outer turrets have been broken, as a neglected yet strong lane can allow enemies to reach a far side of the map and force your team to split up. Of course, this assumes all the members of the game have their heads on straight and aren't just being aimless newbies.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]ya I think you both have good points as to what these phases really are. Jun described the phases by the state of the map and who has more map control. Dice described the phases by the actions of the champions. Ultimately two ways of describing the same thing.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=JunSupport] [quote=EvilDice] I don't consider there to really be an early, mid, and late game. I judge it differently. [u]Laning Phase[/u] When all players are in their lanes, farming it up, until towers start to fall and teams start to group up. [u]Roaming phase[/u] This is when teams begin grouping up and pushing lanes. Wards become very important for catching enemies and objectives like buffs and dragon are much more highly contested. Farming still goes on in this phase, but it's much more risky. [u]End game/teamfight phase[/u] This is when all 5 members of each team are completely grouped up at all times. At this point in the game, mistakes lose you the game, so you must be grouped up and have the map warded. Yeah, you can basically divide that into early/mid/late game, but this is how I think of it. [/quote] Just a difference of labels here, I believe. :) Full 5-man roaming can't really occur until all the outer turrets have been broken, as a neglected yet strong lane can allow enemies to reach a far side of the map and force your team to split up. Of course, this assumes all the members of the game have their heads on straight and aren't just being aimless newbies. [/quote] Erm. You didn't happen to see Fnatic's CV trick at IEM did you? 5 of them sat in a bush bot lane, sv'd their own bush. Candy Panda as Ashe walks in cause she thinks its safe, FB, insta kill.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@NightHawk: That has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Ah fuck you said roaming not ganking. FML.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]not reading the thread: when laning phase ends (tower goes down) and ppl start ganking moar[/quote]

[quote=Kirluu][quote=JunSupport] Early game is over when a tower goes down. [/quote] I believe to have had an early game of 4 minutes in one of my previous games, in that case. We got a double kill, and raped their tower before 4 min mark. But honestly though, that doesn't mean it's not still early game. We didn't even have ulti before "early game" according to above statement was over ;o IMO early game is over as soon as the first teamfight breaks out, and the first dragon is taken by more than one person from either team.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]When the nexus falls.[/quote]