Least Useful Champ

[quote=WaffleWarrior][quote=DuffTime] [quote=WaffleWarrior] shaco definitely useless. [/quote] Fixed. [/quote] Thank you dufffffff. but really. not useless.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yw :)[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Only see little kids go "QQ he useless... QQ hes not..." _._ Only an opinion on this "topic": Ap: Same as that Anti side. Youre not able to "force" ppl taking the dmg you dish out best on that build. Ad: On the backer side here. Only saying that he´s the FUCKING SAME as any assassin. Same as Talon/Eve/Twitch etc. They´re pro at getting and ganking weakened/squishy champs mano a mano. They´ll burst some dmg early or debuffing you giving them a huge advantage trying to force you to retreat while they also making it impossible. Shacos boxes are great to cut off the chasing route of slowed enemies, even if you plant them directly near your target, they´ll react just in time.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Except Talon is a billion times better, does AoE burst AND single target burst.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]On the whole "Shaco is useless" argument going on in here. Shaco's strengths: Picking off one person Backdooring Ganking making people paranoid Controlling jungles/dragon/gank paths Weaknesses: Picked off easily Deals no damage if he wants to prevent that Most of his damage output is when they're running He's definitely not useless like Duff says but, he has one of the hardest skill caps in the game as he should not be in one lane for more than one kill unless he's laning like he really shouldn't be doing...<_< A well placed JitB in a teamfight can help counter initiate but, that's about it. If you're strong with him, by all means, play him. Otherwise, just no.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Duff's definition of useless; Are there 60+ champs that a team would rather have in competitive play? If yes, then the champion is useless. You can still play a useless champion and have fun and win. I play Twitch from time to time. I got 20 + kills last night. Twitch isn't a great champion, though he's probably the best of the "Bad" champions. Shaco can get a lot of kills, but due to his awful teamfighting toolkit, be brings nothing to the table in terms of FINISHING games. I.E; Useless. Please, play him if you think he's fun and you want to enjoy yourself, but don't fool yourself into thinking he's a viable, competitive pick. There's a million better choices, which will better set you up for victory.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Your definition of useful: Best. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ New champs arent added too your collection they replace the active champ in the respective job. From your point of view LoL should be consisting of ~20 champs, everything else is garbage you play if youre one of those guys who say "It´s just a game" while ruining the fun of others by trolling. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ If you hate him, its fine. If hes useless in your opinion, its fine. If you just want to let us know, its also fine. If you think you opinion is omniscientific, your wrong. Every guy out there who can utilizes Shacos "terrible toolkit" to make him and his teammates win the game against enemies who are as strong as him or even stronger proofs you wrong.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I've played with two AP shacos today, the first called mid AP Shaco in champ select. I thought he was trolling (I actually switched champs to Annie and was forced to duo lane with her, which worked surprisingly well) but he actually ended up 7/1/9 or something with some awesome assassinations and burst. Granted the other team was absolute balls, I've no idea how Xerath managed to lose mid to an AP Shaco. The second duo laned bot on the other team with a Blitzcrank. Was rather irritating since it was literally an insta-kill if Blitzcrank grabbed you or you went near the bush. I warded the bushes a couple times but we still ended up behind in the lane. Mid game he seemed useless though and because of superior team coordination (we were five premade) we won easily.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Dar I legitimately didn't understand what you said, but yes, 30-40 champions are competitive and the rest are generally sub par. Why not use the best champions to get the job done?[/quote]

[quote=BunkerBob]Entertain us with your 30-40 competitive champs please.[/quote]