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AoE CC ultimates do not allow one to control a team fight.
AoE CC help dominate or cancel team fights, so you may dominate or escape more efficiently.
Being able control a team fight means you have tools that can let you either lock down / reach targets or peel enemies off allies.
Tools such as Lee Sin's gap-closers and slow, Nocturne's fear and duskbinger, irelia's dash and stun, udyr's bear stance. Stuff that can be used often to 'control' fights.
AoE CC ultimates do not allow one to control a team fight.
AoE CC help dominate or cancel team fights, so you may dominate or escape more efficiently.
Being able control a team fight means you have tools that can let you either lock down / reach targets or peel enemies off allies.
Tools such as Lee Sin's gap-closers and slow, Nocturne's fear and duskbinger, irelia's dash and stun, udyr's bear stance. Stuff that can be used often to 'control' fights.
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How is dominating a team fight not the same thing as controlling it?
And why can't Alistar's CC, for example, peel enemies from your allies? In fact I consider Alistar to be pretty damn effective at saving allies.
And why can't Alistar's CC, for example, peel enemies from your allies? In fact I consider Alistar to be pretty damn effective at saving allies.
Dominating a fight doesn't mean you can't be dominated at the same time.
Ever had a full team wipe where only 1 player in the entire game is left alive?
One team gets aced, and another has 4 people die - 1 person left going "WOOT I win!" or "WTF just happened?!"
That's what happens if you can't control the team fight.
Ever had a full team wipe where only 1 player in the entire game is left alive?
One team gets aced, and another has 4 people die - 1 person left going "WOOT I win!" or "WTF just happened?!"
That's what happens if you can't control the team fight.
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the sure win is made out of akali+jungle WW
once they both hit 6 akali bursts down an enemy champion in 1 WW ult, and is really unlikely that enemy has made
Quicksilver Sash already and by the time he does akali will already have
Rylai's Crystal Scepter
once they both hit 6 akali bursts down an enemy champion in 1 WW ult, and is really unlikely that enemy has made


From your lists of champs, I'd suggest
Irelia top and
Maokai jungle. A fed Irelia is just insane, Maokai is a tank so you can play a major role in team fights while Irelia murders the enemy team. Maokai is a one-man ganking machine.
I'm going to think about finding a partner for duo-queue Leona. She's built for duo because of her passive. Perfect weaving of abilities between her passive stacks is quite frankly borderline OP (well it's not because it's hard!). AD carry + Leona bot might work well, although I've gone with Annie bot and it's absolutely crushed (mainly because Tibbers gives free Sunlight procs... it's hilarious).


I'm going to think about finding a partner for duo-queue Leona. She's built for duo because of her passive. Perfect weaving of abilities between her passive stacks is quite frankly borderline OP (well it's not because it's hard!). AD carry + Leona bot might work well, although I've gone with Annie bot and it's absolutely crushed (mainly because Tibbers gives free Sunlight procs... it's hilarious).
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From your lists of champs, I'd suggest


I'm going to think about finding a partner for duo-queue Leona. She's built for duo because of her passive. Perfect weaving of abilities between her passive stacks is quite frankly borderline OP (well it's not because it's hard!). AD carry + Leona bot might work well, although I've gone with Annie bot and it's absolutely crushed (mainly because Tibbers gives free Sunlight procs... it's hilarious).
I do want to get better at Moekai :p
Tri lane for life.
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From what I understand in general the higher picks play the solo lanes and the AD carry, and the last two picks generally get forced to jungle and support, so if you're going to be last pick often you might find yourself having to fill those roles anyway.
This one's great, essentially a long range 3 second stun if these two lane together.
Tarics stun, Cait's Trap + her Q is amazing. : )