Worst item

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=Xenasis] [quote=IceCreamy] [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on supports? NO! I will dance on your grave when I pwn you with my [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]! I can buy other support items such as [[Deathfire Grasp]] and [[Soul Shroud]] to get my CDR on a support. imo they have use (but only very small) on champions like [[Renekton]] and [[Gangplank]]. But I still think that they can buy better boots. [/quote] Have fun reaching a DFG or Soul Shroud after - Boots, 3 GP10 items (that's up to ~3500 already), 10-20 wards (1.5k-3k) and an Aegis (~2k), and don't try and tell me that other support items should be prioritised before those... Sorcs are bad on supports, even ones without healing like Janna or GP. You deal minimal damage, but getting off that extra CC or extra shield can save someone's ass. [/quote] Do remember that the gp/5 items give you LOADS of gold to spend. Along with the shitload of assists you good it should not take that long to get those items. Perhaps [[Mercury's Treads]] are better then [[Sorcerer's Shoes]], but I will never ever in my whole life buy [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on [u]any[/u] champion. And btw I'm not buying 10-20 wards in early game... I have a team too, I'm not alone when it comes to warding. It's a common mistake many people make: "Hey we have a support, he/she is in charge of buying all wards and I don't have to do shit!" Wrong, because it's only 75 gold for one and it helps you so much - don't forget supports are not Lamborghini's, they can't go that fast :P[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Supports shouldn't buy [i]all[/i] the wards, but normally they buy the most wards. That's how it is and that's how it also [b]should be[/b]. Getting multiple gold/10 items is great but really doesn't make it viable to buy [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]. Your role is not to deal damage, it is to heal and protect your teammates. In order to be able to do that, you [i]need[/i] CDR and you need to reach the 40% cap ASAP. Not even [[Mercury's Treads]] are viable imo, you really don't have a lot of gold to spend and even if you do get a lot of assists it is better to use that gold by buying an early [[Oracle's Elixir]], more wards or more support (aura) items such as [[Will of the Ancients]] and [[Stark's Fervor]]. As a support, you do what your team what your team needs you to do and that is save their ass by using heals or cc abilities such as Alistar's [[Pulverize]]/[[Headbutt]] to prevent your enemies from finishing off one of your teammates. You don't want to deal damage let alone get kills, no reason to buy [[Sorcerer's Shoes]].[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer]The problem with [[Leviathan]] versus the other items with stacks is that it is 1) for tanks and tanks die alot, in general get fewer kills, and usually just get assists which makes it hard to level up to 20 and 2) unlike the other stacking items it isn't even CLOSE to being the best option for pure HP... heck it isn't even the 2nd best option. I would rather have [[Frozen Mallet]] over it right now. Or [[Sunfire Cape]]. And [[Warmog's Armor]] is head and shoulders better than it. It definitely needs a rework and something more added to it to make it worth taking a chance on. As it stands it simply IS NOT worth getting on anyone it was designed for (tanks).[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I would actually say Levi isn't that awful for it's cost. :P[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer]If you only look at cost and in theory it isn't awful for it's cost... but in practice it is horrid.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Sorta. I just don't like stacking items but inb4 everyone hates on this statement, I think it's probly as good as Mejai's.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=DuffTime] I think it's probly as good as Mejai's. [/quote] I would say it is just as [i]bad[/i] as Mejai's, tbh.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I would agree with that statement Wayne :P[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Leviathan]] is pretty terrible in theory. Assuming it is for tanks, and tanks are subject to dying instead of carries, it would be very difficult to maintain stacks.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=IceCreamy] [quote=Xenasis] [quote=IceCreamy] [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on supports? NO! I will dance on your grave when I pwn you with my [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]! I can buy other support items such as [[Deathfire Grasp]] and [[Soul Shroud]] to get my CDR on a support. imo they have use (but only very small) on champions like [[Renekton]] and [[Gangplank]]. But I still think that they can buy better boots. [/quote] Have fun reaching a DFG or Soul Shroud after - Boots, 3 GP10 items (that's up to ~3500 already), 10-20 wards (1.5k-3k) and an Aegis (~2k), and don't try and tell me that other support items should be prioritised before those... Sorcs are bad on supports, even ones without healing like Janna or GP. You deal minimal damage, but getting off that extra CC or extra shield can save someone's ass. [/quote] Do remember that the gp/5 items give you LOADS of gold to spend. Along with the shitload of assists you good it should not take that long to get those items. Perhaps [[Mercury's Treads]] are better then [[Sorcerer's Shoes]], but I will never ever in my whole life buy [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on [u]any[/u] champion. And btw I'm not buying 10-20 wards in early game... I have a team too, I'm not alone when it comes to warding. It's a common mistake many people make: "Hey we have a support, he/she is in charge of buying all wards and I don't have to do shit!" Wrong, because it's only 75 gold for one and it helps you so much - don't forget supports are not Lamborghini's, they can't go that fast :P [/quote] I know GP10 gives you loads of gold, that's why supports get them. However, from the list I have above, you need 7k-8.5k. Supports really don't get 2k more than that for fancy DFGs in 90% of games. In general, supports should be buying all of the wards, with the exception of solotop buying one or two. The price for keeping Dragon warded from 5-35 minutes is 750 gold... not to mention baron at 25m+, your lane, your jungle, their jungle, etc.[/quote]