How many Veterans are there?

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]^lol double post[/quote]

[quote=Bryun][quote=GrimmFate] [img=http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4765/derailedtrainthread.jpg] [/quote] )=[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate][quote=Bryun] )= [/quote] Am I wrong? :o or are you just sad at the derailing in general[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=Nighthawk]But for all us members know, it's possible vets do just that. They have their own forum which is private to us, and they have the PM system. For all we know they could be talking about us behind our backs :P [/quote] You have PMs too o.O Duff, can you just spit out the name of the vets you are pissed off at? I'll start: Dewo: his guides are extremely outdated, have have been for 7+ months now. I've PM'd him about it, and he won't change them. Sole reason why I made a WW guide. Searz: can be almighty. He was allowed to, back when he actually contributed a shit-tonne to the site, but his attitude doesn't suit his position right now. B-Wong: resentment dies hard. He doesn't even visit the site much anymore, most of you probably don't know him. And that's the only vets/mods I have problems with. "regular people" I have problems with: Nameless: whenever I get into a fight with you, you get your friends to back you up. Don't say you don't, it's exactly what you're accusing vets of doing. So stop being hypocritical. Duff: you have problems with site progression. If it was up to you, computers would be simple input/output machines. You type something in, it prints out. The GUI system was made to please the eye - denying the fact that people like pretty things is a stupid argument. Also, you don't like vet recs. Here's an eye-opener, NO ONE DOES. Us vets are ACTUALLY PRO REC REMOVAL. There's a 20 page thread in the vet forum about how to improve rec's, when they should be given etc etc. We want to CHANGE the system, but we're NOT admins, we can't. We want to change recs to be given based on GUIDE QUALITY only. We want to give 1800> Elo players the ability to rec guides on BUILD ONLY. We want ALL current recs taken away. So don't think you're the "pioneer" of the suggestion of taking recs away. Toshabi: Troll. But he doesn't really scale out of control. Lugignaf: In the vet forums, you're the one nominated by almost every vet for promotion, but your behaviour recently casts a very negative light on your image. I'm not annoyed with anyone else. Now that I've broken the "ice" why don't you guys, "call out" those "bad vets" you were talking about.[/quote]

[quote=gwadzila]Guys, please don't turn this into a hate thread.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Luther3000]Besides, if you can't handle a few people insulting your opinion then the internet really isn't for you.[/quote] If that opinion is based upon experience and facts, then why is the burden of "proof" set on the person who has laid out all his evidence instead of the people saying "No, that's bad."? Also, The overall point of this site is to make people better players, and the vets blindly attacking someone's ideas about the game doesn't help their image, or mobafire's image. [quote=DuffTime]Buuuut the fact remains that MobaFire is -also- a site for LoL guides. [/quote] I believe that mobafire is exclusively a site about guide's, and making the player base better players as a whole, and the forums are just a nice convenience so we don't have to comment on guides to state our opinions on general topics or ask questions. This is all just my opinion however.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Additionally, these are the current rec'd guides: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/browse?sort_type=score_weighted&sort_order=&champion_id=&guide_type=&threshold=recommended&freshness=Stale&vote_count=0&page=1 Go through them and tell me which of them shouldn't be rec'd. Which one of them doesn't deserve to have received recognition for their hard work.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=jhoijhoi] Lugignaf: In the vet forums, you're the one nominated by almost every vet for promotion, but your behaviour recently casts a very negative light on your image. [/quote] ¬_¬' At least I know I'm doing something right... Honestly, It's mainly you, wRAth and Searz. I've spoken about you in the PM a while back. wRAth is a fine guy but gets a little... "butt-hurt" sometimes. Not the greatest to be around when someone does something even remotely off-kilter. Searz, I have nothing against him as a vet. He's super, super brief and I just like a bit more explanation in things, even though I don't explain much myself. EDIT: I also have a bit against Potatis but that's only because he tried to get me to buy Skyrim for him and refund me for 60 Kronas which is like... $9.[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage][quote=Lugignaf] EDIT: I also have a bit against Potatis but that's only because he tried to get me to buy Skyrim for him and refund me for 60 Kronas which is like... $9. [/quote] I lol'd.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Lugi: You spoke to me in a PM where you accused me of downvoting your Nasus guide when I didn't. Which I then proved by downvoting your guide and the guide losing percentage and staying at the same number of votes. I then upvoted to replace the percentage. Other than that, I can't recall what problems you had with me. EDIT: Also, your problems about vets are small and insignificant. Just because Wrath gets annoyed at people he's a bad vet? Just because Searz replies in short answers he's a bad vet? I'm a bad vet because I don't downvote guides?[/quote]