Support Yorick too Strong?

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah well... I would disagree with your opinion here :3 Since we haven't seen it at high elo we have no way to know "Just how good" it could be. I think during lane phase it'd probably be a 6/10 or a 7/10 in terms of strength. There's better supports for the lane phase, but his harass is undeniable. You'd have to be careful about picking it verse hard initiate combo's such as lanes with Taric or Alistar. End game it could be as strong as 9/10 or 10/10 in my eyes. The idea that he can just build items like Shurelya's and Aegis and get the full 100% effect out of his ultimate on a big super carry... Veeeery scary. Not much is gonna have a greater impact for your team than that. I would just keep an open mind about the idea is all I'm saying. I personally think it could be a "Thing" if it catches on. (And I think it should be.)[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]Support Yorick. I been on that shit for a while. Throws the game WAAAAAAAY off course. Its awesome. :-D[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002]I am loving this thread, gonna play some more support Yorick tomorrow! :D I love how Searz always ends up seeming to be the narrowminded guy here on Mobafire (no offensive here mate) - But in this case, I think it's a very good thing. If everyone just agreed we wouldn't find the weaknesses of the tactic in the way we will when someone like searz disagree's ^^ Tho don't knock it till you've tried it Searz - Oh and Duff, I just saw someone play a game with Nhat as support Yorick today. It seemed like he were actually leveling W and not E. The build is as I said it would be, Philo, HoG, boots, Shure, Aegis, situational. I haven't checked what runes or masteries he's been using - But I assume you would be able to figure that out by stalking his profile? ^-^ If this proves to be as strong as it feels like, then we should make a guide for it here on Mobafire : D[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I don't know what the pro's are doing. I came up with this like 2 months ago, hahah. Long before any high elo players started doing it. Thing about high Elo players is there's always a reason for their choices. It may or may not be better than leveling the life regen one, but there's a reason for their picks. I only know what went through my head. The reasoning for leveling W might be because the range is long enough it can be greater used for zone control. I logically decided that E would be better for trades/sustain but it may not be the case. I almost did make a support Yorick guide, but then I face palmed and realized abyssal downvotes into oblivion awaited me and scrapped the idea. I don't like to waste time :P I would have to write a short novel explaining every minute detail and I didn't feel up to it xD[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002][quote=DuffTime] I don't know what the pro's are doing. I came up with this like 2 months ago, hahah. Long before any high elo players started doing it. Thing about high Elo players is there's always a reason for their choices. It may or may not be better than leveling the life regen one, but there's a reason for their picks. I only know what went through my head. The reasoning for leveling W might be because the range is long enough it can be greater used for zone control. I logically decided that E would be better for trades/sustain but it may not be the case. I almost did make a support Yorick guide, but then I face palmed and realized abyssal downvotes into oblivion awaited me and scrapped the idea. I don't like to waste time :P I would have to write a short novel explaining every minute detail and I didn't feel up to it xD [/quote] Oh well - I only just thought of the idea a few days ago.. xD But the amount of harass most bottom lanes give back, actually isn't all that high - so a little less levels in E with a stronger W is better for 2 reasons, 1: The higher base damage and higher slow percentage all helps in making you trade the hardest. 2: The stronger slow and the W ghoul aswell is VERY effective at PEELING attackers/gankers off your carry! :3 Hahaha xD Oh how I feel you there mate, but we should consider doing it anyways though :33 I've actually almost finished an a bit special Lee Sin jungle guide (I have some things I do quite different from the commonly accepted) but I probably will never be done for the mere fact that people don't like this kind of creativity (especially not in the jungle!) so I would have to face alot of shit, which I don't feel like I want to.. xD[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Slizer002] I love how Searz always ends up seeming to be the narrowminded guy here on Mobafire (no offensive here mate) - But in this case, I think it's a very good thing. If everyone just agreed we wouldn't find the weaknesses of the tactic in the way we will when someone like searz disagree's ^^[/quote] I am and have been talking about Ashe being a viable support. I'm not narrowminded. I'm negative towards stuff that seem illogical until proven wrong. Yorick's ult is a GREAT support ability, BUT that's the only good one he has... [quote]Tho don't knock it till you've tried it Searz - Oh and Duff, I just saw someone play a game with Nhat as support Yorick today. It seemed like he were actually leveling W and not E.[/quote] I don't play much support outside of alistar. So no. But if someone I trust says it's better than niche then I might change my opinion. I like keeping "Niche" and "Viable" separate. Because EVERYONE is viable, just niche. Viable are the picks I consider to be better than average.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Wth support Yorick? If you're running a support that can't sustain the lane then you better make sure they have some good CC or you're gonna be sad pandas. Passive supports - Soraka, Janna Aggressive supports - Blitz, Alistar, Leona In the middle - Sona, Taric Yorick doesn't work as a support because A) He can't sustain a lane and B) He doesn't have the hard CC to control a lane. Ofc this is just how the meta is atm, in 3 months who knows?[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]WHY THANK YOU TOM, I LOVE YOU TOO![/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Haha xD <3[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002][quote=Searz] [quote=Slizer002] I love how Searz always ends up seeming to be the narrowminded guy here on Mobafire (no offensive here mate) - But in this case, I think it's a very good thing. If everyone just agreed we wouldn't find the weaknesses of the tactic in the way we will when someone like searz disagree's ^^[/quote] I am and have been talking about Ashe being a viable support. I'm not narrowminded. I'm negative towards stuff that seem illogical until proven wrong. Yorick's ult is a GREAT support ability, BUT that's the only good one he has... [quote]Tho don't knock it till you've tried it Searz - Oh and Duff, I just saw someone play a game with Nhat as support Yorick today. It seemed like he were actually leveling W and not E.[/quote] I don't play much support outside of alistar. So no. But if someone I trust says it's better than niche then I might change my opinion. I like keeping "Niche" and "Viable" separate. Because EVERYONE is viable, just niche. Viable are the picks I consider to be better than average. [/quote] Interesting to make Ashe a support o.o I can't really see it working all too well though, cause she get's 0 benefit from building support items IMO - But I haven't seen it yet and she does bring good utility so it might work ^^ That makes better sense aswell, to say he's Niche is probably correct - but even if Niche he seems to be REALLY strong ^^ You don't need hard CC Adom, with Yorick you just say "Oh you picked Janna? Have fun staying in this lane without getting harassed to death and zoned from any CS at all" ^^ That's what he does, later on he brings alot of different utilities +quite abit of damage without any items. Bringing in Blitz is funny aswell - Oh blitz wants to grab your carry? Nope, W! Hai :3[/quote]