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Cost effectiveness of masteries - a closer look...

Creator: Searz December 12, 2011 5:19am

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But Duff does not dismiss others the way Searz habitually does. Duff can be annoyingly stubborn, but at least he is fairly respectful.

Beyond annoyingly. So stubborn it's useless to argue with him. That is what originally ticked me off about him. The walls of unnecessary text didn't help either :(
I know I was out of line, but I was very tired, having only slept 2 hours and Duff's arrogance always rubs me the wrong way.

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Duff is also direct in confronting other people. Searz, on the other hand, spent the last half of this thread trying to redirect attention after Duff called him out on his poor manners.

Wait, what? O.o
I said "GTFO or respond to my response". I wanted to get back on track, yet I get 10 more offtopic comments >.>
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Clearly Duff paid Cartographer7 to type that.

I mean, everyone can see trough Duffs "tough guy" attire.

I think its cute <3
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DuffTime wrote:

Or discuss any of the points I made about it that were ignored.

You mean those incorrect points about me "ignoring" the usefulness of masteries?
I called those assumptions on your part, because I NEVER STATED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
Now, please leave the thread or respond to my comment (that you never actually responded to) without making assumptions.
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What do you think about % health vs health/lvl vs flat health.

Which one is best?

And is greater mark/quint of destruction viable?

Or what you generally think about every new rune.

BTW: New possible Ryze masteries.^^
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Yeah that's basically what I use on Ryze now.
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Spellvamp is probably still bad. :/


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CDR will ALWAYS be better than Strength of Spirit.
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I'd say Ryze can afford to lose the CDR for 30-40 health regen from SoS. Ryze does generally buy a lot of CDR in Frozen Heart, and he has some on his Q too. If he takes blue he'll be at 40% easily.

I would say he's probably the only champ it's better on though.
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Buuuuuut CDR on Ryze is better....
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Perhaps. He's the only one where it's even a close decision, though.

Basically it sucks. =P

Edit: Another possibility is putting three points in Intelligence and one in Strength of Spirit . You get 0.4% of mana as health regen just for one point. That way you get all the CDR and still get almost half of the regen from SoS.
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