Sneak Peak Possible Shen/Vlad Changes From PBE

[quote=ExamplePrime]Interested in the new changes hope they come through Used to love Shen back in the day But the new meta has kinda pushed him aside :/ The biggest problem with Vlad is how much of a snowball champion he is. Much like Katarina and Akail a few kills and he goes from strength to strength and the next thing you know its nearly impossible to deal with him[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=Zeprido] They made his passive cooldown by .5 every time he gets hit by minions/creeps now. His vorpal is also a lot better in the jungle as it still applies the heal even if you last hit with it. His lane game will certainly be stronger though. [/quote] Yeah and 2 secs for champ hits. The old version is better on jungle since you have the possibility to calmly hit creeps without being harassed. Maybe you can jungle, nevermind that, but the buff improves his laning abilities far better. His vorpal heals him with last hits? = LANE. Just look at his taunt: now grants 40 energy/champion hit with reduced costs? = Duo lane. Vorpal Blade triggers off of spells? = Support.[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] [quote=Crazy Smurf] 2.70 with 40% CDR, which you now rarely gain seeing as other people need Blue Buff more and the Maximum CDR you are going to get out of Items and Masteries vary between 28-30. Of course, you get CC if you rush Rylai, but who does it now, seeing as you will need now more defensive play from Vlad and his 2700 HP pool. Yes, I think Vlad needs a tiny bit more CC, from the position he was on now, which was low enough, they are going to bring him even lower. I don't see the point of it, even if you had that 3500 HP you had to be a good Vlad player not to lose 25% of it in a single teamfight. Notice that those 15-25% will still be lost when you go into a teamfight and what can you after this? Charge in? Sorry, you don't have enough HP to do this now, stay away and CC? Joke, you do not have it. Sustain yourself out of the battle? Not Vlad's purpose. They took away his biggest match against AP Carries which actually an ability to survive their Insta-CC-Nuke, which Vlad lacks. Overall, it's a nerf, rathr than a boost, 2 seconds less on leveel 1 won't make any difference, and Tides of Blood... who cares as long as you have Q and Spell Vamp. [/quote] Fan boy biased. You'll get over it. Not like they took away his troll pool, he still has that annoying piece of broken shit. Oh as well 2 seconds is a long time...Means he will heal 2 seconds faster. Can last hit with Q (if he needs) on a more regular basis. You're complaing about HP Scaling on an AP carry...Build warmogs (trollface), get over it. The health loss is negligible. [/quote] Nevah, Vlad Fanboyism is deep within my soul.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]BUT I LOVE YOU CRAZY D: You'll take Vlad over me? T_T[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Zeprido] [quote=TheJohn] Vlad isnt a teamfighter. He did nothing during them and isnt gonna do. [/quote] *Cough* [[Hemoplague]] *Cough* [/quote] And what you do after it? Jump in the middle of the fight and die expecting that your ult pentakills for you?[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] BUT I LOVE YOU CRAZY D: You'll take Vlad over me? T_T [/quote] I'd do that if I were him[/quote]

[quote=Diesel][quote=Darcurse] His vorpal heals him with last hits? = LANE. Just look at his taunt: now grants 40 energy/champion hit with reduced costs? = Duo lane. Vorpal Blade triggers off of spells? = Support. [/quote] Even so, could you see him as a viable Support champ for the AD Carry? I can't imagine him playing the role of [[Alistar]] or [[Taric]] very efficiently knowing Shen does need some CS to keep up with the masses.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]But I'm too sexy for my shirt D:[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=TheJohn] [quote=Zeprido] [quote=TheJohn] Vlad isnt a teamfighter. He did nothing during them and isnt gonna do. [/quote] *Cough* [[Hemoplague]] *Cough* [/quote] And what you do after it? Jump in the middle of the fight and die expecting that your ult pentakills for you? [/quote] E+ q + w+ q and then penta ;p[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=Darcurse] [quote=Zeprido] They made his passive cooldown by .5 every time he gets hit by minions/creeps now. His vorpal is also a lot better in the jungle as it still applies the heal even if you last hit with it. His lane game will certainly be stronger though. [/quote] Yeah and 2 secs for champ hits. The old version is better on jungle since you have the possibility to calmly hit creeps without being harassed. Maybe you can jungle, nevermind that, but the buff improves his laning abilities far better. His vorpal heals him with last hits? = LANE. Just look at his taunt: now grants 40 energy/champion hit with reduced costs? = Duo lane. Vorpal Blade triggers off of spells? = Support. [/quote] I tried him out in the jungle on the pbe, was much faster, and finished with more hp.[/quote]