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UltimateHavok wrote:
Wait, since when was Shen a bad champion?
Since he got the nerf bat on three consecutive patches. They've been talking about buffing him for awhile, but haven't done it yet. I mean, he almost reminds me of Mordekaiser with some CC, you really can fight around him since he doesn't have that much of a presence in team fights after his initial CC.
Top 10 Worst Champs:
(In no order)
Evelyn
Heimerdinger
Dr.Mundo
Twitch
Ashe
Katarina
Karma
Miss Fortune
Shen
Then a toss up between Veigar, Teemo, Mordekaiser or Pantheon...
(In no order)
Evelyn
Heimerdinger
Dr.Mundo
Twitch
Ashe
Katarina
Karma
Miss Fortune
Shen
Then a toss up between Veigar, Teemo, Mordekaiser or Pantheon...
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ExamplePrime wrote:
Top 10 Worst Champs:
(In no order)
Evelyn
Heimerdinger
Dr.Mundo
Twitch is fine
Ashe is fine
Katarina is fine
Karma is fine
Miss Fortune is fine
Shen
Then a toss up between Veigar (is fine), Teemo (is fine), Mordekaiser (is fine) or Pantheon (is fine)...
That's one messed up list, some of those champs are good

I count four, Ashe, Heimer, Shen, and Karma in the "top ten". The 'toss up' champions are all fine, imo.
I don't see why. Smite absolutely destroys Heimerdinger's damage output. That being said, his damage output is pitiful anyway. So many better picks..
That may be true, but his lane dominance is crazy. If he wins the lane he wins the game by pushing towers. Have fun pushing him out, too, he starts with like 20 passive HP5. The main mistake people do with Heim is going pure AP, though. He should be built similar to cho but wth a little more AP. He's got really good bases.
Hey, don't question me, I'm not the guy who picked him, but he was picked. And banned.
Icuonuez wrote:
I don't see why. Smite absolutely destroys Heimerdinger's damage output. That being said, his damage output is pitiful anyway. So many better picks..
That may be true, but his lane dominance is crazy. If he wins the lane he wins the game by pushing towers. Have fun pushing him out, too, he starts with like 20 passive HP5. The main mistake people do with Heim is going pure AP, though. He should be built similar to cho but wth a little more AP. He's got really good bases.
Hey, don't question me, I'm not the guy who picked him, but he was picked. And banned.

Vavena wrote:
That's one messed up list, some of those champs are good
Vavena, they may be "fine" or still suitable champions, but the reason that they're considered bad right now is that other characters are MUCH better picks and bring more into a fight than the ones stated.
Wintermond wrote:
Heimer is far from Eve tier. :v
While I am of the opinion that every champion is viable in solo queue, Eve is the worst of them IMO.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

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You forgot to mention endgame and their ability to anti-carry etc;
For example,
While this is a valid point, it's still fairly insignificant. Poppy is considered bad because she is difficult to lane anywhere and there's not enough gold in the jungle for her :P