good build,after testing some builds that is the best that i found.

None taken :) I read your responses about Atma's/Bloodrazor, and I agree that Atma's is a very efficient item for the cost, but I still wouldn't really consider it a core item for Fiora. However, your build is aiming a lot more towards tanky dps than I tend to build her, so for that route it's a great item.

As for bloodrazor vs infinity edge, I ran some numbers and you're right, bloodrazor does yield more overall damage (not accounting for MR). If the target has 2500 hp that's an extra 100 magic damage per attack. In order for infinity edge to catch up you'd need to have higher aspd than you would simply swapping the two and leaving all other items the same. The most noticeable difference when comparing the two is that with burst of speed up, over a 5 second span, you gained 2 more attacks with madred's during the first 3s (compared to 5s w/o burst). With IE you only had 4 attacks regardless of burst being used or not (with burst it was very close to 5, but can't count .8 of an attack).

Now, if you swapped atma's for phantom dancer, then IE would pull ahead, but as you said that's pretty radically changing your build's direction.

On a side note, doing this comparison also yielded this nugget of info: Fiora gains virtually no aspd/lvl. Her lvl 1 aspd is .67, lvl 18 is .672

Very good build, i have to try it before voting however it seems excellent.
Two things to point out. If you jungle you may want to try Mobility Boots, with that you will not need to use ghost or flash to gank and will allow you to gank far places easily (447 of movement speed)
The Last Whisper is not a good choice and will never be. Doesn´t work with Black Cleaver because it doesn't give ArP but reduces the armor of the enemy, gives only 40 AD and the 40% ArP will only work if you have more than 25 ArP (only 10 extra ArP)
There are a lot of other items that will work better, Youmuu's Ghostblade for example.
Also Splix, the Atma's Impaler is a bad choice at the start but once that you are level 15 you can eat alive any tank. Also Madred's Bloodrazor has the same attack as the Last Whisper and also deals magic attack.

IF you did the math then you would see that getting atma's is a waste as infinity edge provides more dmg, crit and is just overall a better weapon when you have under 3k health like you do w/this build.

Also, whats with madreds bloodrazor? you already attack fast enough w/a black cleaver.. why not remove madreds and get last whisper? the dmg output is amazing in comparison.

Do more research.

Ok I got somethings that I can say(I've never played this champion but have a friend that always gets fed no madder what as her).

First thing I believe because of what he usually does I would think about going for a [wiki-doran's blade] then go for the Berserker's Greavers then go head over to go get a Bloodthirster then a Infinity Edge afterwards a Black Cleaver then go for another Bloodthirster and finally a Frozen Mallet not saying this will work for everyone I'm just asking you to TRY it is all ok? I'm trying to give tips to see if he is the only one that can be boss with this build or can be used for everyone.
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http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/fiora-the-true-duelist-188875 Check out my build. O_O It is really complex. I wanna see you compare it to this build. pl0x

Too much DPS. Lower down on the black cleaver and stuff. She already has a bunch of DPS from Burst of Speed. Check out my build! I hope you enjoy it!


http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/fiora-the-true-duelist-188875

Hey Stealthmonsta, I would encourage you to look at the random response box, I crunched some math to show why atmas' isnt a bad item.

@Taktaktaruken thanks? Lol

so far this is the best build i have seen so far. as long as dont come in 3s in early game LOL. but its a hell of a build and info btw :D

Atma's Impaler is what i wouldnt use on fiora...
but a warmorgs or infinity edge is what makes her very strong
madreds can be very helpful in lategame i think

No offence intended Lothos88, but if you want to recommend changing that much then you should probably go make your own build. I'm always open to feedback, but I will make my build my way, and at the moment this is how I've been building her. It may not be best, but it's my style for the moment.

I'd also like to echo the suggestions of a few others here, drop Atma's Impaler and Madred's Bloodrazor. Replace impaler with Infinity Edge if you want more damage or Guardian Angel for more survival and replace bloodrazor with either Wit's End or Youmuu's Ghostblade. I also agree with either rushing Phage if you want more survival early or Bloodthirster if you're getting fed. Unless they have a lot of tanky dps on their team I don't feel madred's is worth the cost.

I personally start with Vampiric Scepter and level up W, E, Q, then alternate between W/E. This gives me very strong sustain early game and the skill sequence also maximizes early damage (I, like you, take armor pen marks/quints). The only attack speed items I usually build on her are Black Cleaver and maybe Berserker's Greaves if the enemy team doesn't have much CC.

I will try out starting with cloth armor and health pots, but I've yet to have any problems with lane sustain and the scepter helps build towards my early BT which is always my goal starting out. However, if my lane isn't getting kills I'll likely go for a phage or brutalizer, then BF sword, then BT.