Yorick. How to...?

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=Kurt_Ottman] We should do a [[Galio]] vs [[Yorick]] once, see how it ventures. - - However, since 1 vs 1's don't prove anything, you may as well be right on the utility part. [/quote] -_- The only way at the moment to defeat Yorick top is with a very high DPS carry + [[ignite]]. Take your pick on who you want, but you can't out poke Yorick. He vastly outclasses almost all other champs in the lane and hes not half bad at standing in front of your carry later. Any decent Yorick will be running flat resistances and AD to ensure his early game dominance. Even if building MR early boosts [[Galio]]'s effectiveness against Yorick, he will be out sustained. Galio's shield is halfway decent against Yorick, but that is not some big secret. [icon=Bulwark size=32] vs [icon=Omen of Famine size=32] Are we really going to seriously compare these two spells? I'm not, I know which one is better. *cough* [[Omen of Famine]] *cough* //leaves thread.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=PotatisFarfar] [quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=PotatisFarfar] Like irelia can out damage yorick. Bich please you have no idea what a yorick can do with your face. [/quote] Lvl 5 irelia using exhaust can and will outdamage yorick. Don't tell me but exhaust cuz irelia haz dar true-damages. [/quote] Heal ignite yorick gonna fuck your shit up. Not hard for yorick to kite irelia when she exhaust any way. [/quote] Yorick doesn't exactly have the best escape abilities.. Tbh heal ignite is pretty much asking to get ganked and ganked some more. I wouldn't run it on yorick simply because all he has is a slow and that's not enough vs gap closers and cc. His Q ms buff is very tough to use effectively if you want to escape.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman][quote=BusDriver210] [quote=Kurt_Ottman] We should do a [[Galio]] vs [[Yorick]] once, see how it ventures. - - However, since 1 vs 1's don't prove anything, you may as well be right on the utility part. [/quote] -_- The only way at the moment to defeat Yorick top is with a very high DPS carry + [[ignite]]. Take your pick on who you want, but you can't out poke Yorick. He vastly outclasses almost all other champs in the lane and hes not half bad at standing in front of your carry later. Any decent Yorick will be running flat resistances and AD to ensure his early game dominance. Even if building MR early boosts [[Galio]]'s effectiveness against Yorick, he will be out sustained. Galio's shield is halfway decent against Yorick, but that is not some big secret. [icon=Bulwark size=32] vs [icon=Omen of Famine size=32] Are we really going to seriously compare these two spells? I'm not, I know which one is better. *cough* [[Omen of Famine]] *cough* //leaves thread. [/quote] You didn't read what I was saying did you? With enough MR [[Galio]] will dominate because of the fact that [[Omen of Famine]] won't do squat against him. And it will only heal [[Yorick]] for the damage it deals, which is nothing noteworthy since [[Galio]] gets MR. This means [[Yorick]] can't really use [[Omen of Famine]] at [[Galio]] and expect it to be effective, at least when [[Galio]] get his shield up. I've tried it, instead of wasting your time on theory and stubbornness, you should too.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar][quote=EvilDice] [quote=PotatisFarfar] [quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=PotatisFarfar] Like irelia can out damage yorick. Bich please you have no idea what a yorick can do with your face. [/quote] Lvl 5 irelia using exhaust can and will outdamage yorick. Don't tell me but exhaust cuz irelia haz dar true-damages. [/quote] Heal ignite yorick gonna fuck your shit up. Not hard for yorick to kite irelia when she exhaust any way. [/quote] Yorick doesn't exactly have the best escape abilities.. Tbh heal ignite is pretty much asking to get ganked and ganked some more. I wouldn't run it on yorick simply because all he has is a slow and that's not enough vs gap closers and cc. His Q ms buff is very tough to use effectively if you want to escape. [/quote] Use Q on one minion = profit. And yorick doesn't even need to run from ganks when he is level 3.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=Kurt_Ottman] I've tried it, instead of wasting your time on theory and stubbornness, you should too. [/quote] Just so you know, not all Lol players are idiots and will continue to spam E into a [[Galio]]. Instead of assuming I am one of these idiots, why don't you simply stop quoting me and go about your business. It would be very beneficial to both our parties since your always right and i'm always wrong. According to you. Edit: Galio might be able to take my harassment, but that doesn't mean I can't full heal off your tank minion, push his lane to tower, and wait for your jungler to come save you from shitty farm. Welcome to Yorick top.[/quote]

[quote=Protocol]BusDriver, the only thing that makes anyone assume that you are an idiot is your over aggressiveness in a discussion. It is a discussion, leave it at that, nobody called you an idiot. Galio gives Yorick a good fight strictly because of his E is useless. Creating much more of a stalemate then most lane match ups. Brings it down to player skill other than champion selection.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=Protocol] BusDriver, the only thing that makes anyone assume that you are an idiot is your over aggressiveness in a discussion. It is a discussion, leave it at that, nobody called you an idiot. [/quote] I think of it rather as a strong will and less aggressive behavior. I see where you coming from, but just because our opinions don't match doesn't mean I am disrespecting the discussion. If everyone agreed on everything there would be nothing left to discuss. [color=orange]TLDR: Off topic remark[/color] The point I am trying to make is that while Kurt brings a strong counter pick to [[Yorick]] top, simply saying that because [[Galio]] can build MR doesn't give me a real argument over a sustain battle for top. The fact that Yorick can, on command, sustain himself and Galio cannot is the main issue. I will not say [[Bulwark]] is BAD against Yorick, just not as strong as [[Omen of Famine]] is against EVERYTHING. Too aggressive for you?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah don't heal ignite Yorick.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Go deep balls Udyr and just farm till his bar is empty. Take 21 in deff and start Null-Magic Mantle and Pots. You can get Tiger at lvl 1 but i would rather go trutel as he won't come near. When you hit lvl 2 look his mana bar. More to full get bear for escape and stun if it's low, i almost never will be, get tiger and push him around when he gets near. Max turttel first. Try to not take more dmg then you need and use the ghouls to heal up with turtel. If you can get you wriggels without to die you should win the lane. But will still be a high risk without a gank.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]I dunno why so many think MR is great against Yorick...? Let's say you can easily get somewhat enough MR early to reduce incoming magical dmg by another ~10%. That means you reduce the initial dmg off his ghoul by 10% and as a result reduce Yorick's gained heal by 4%.... Soooo? Don't seem to be quite that much if you include that the Ghoul will also hit you 2-3 times and Yorick can still charge you leaving you completely defenseless...[/quote]