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+ A very creative build
+ Your guide is very colorful and artistic, it gives a great level of present-ability
+ Very effective video and images
+ Very in-depth
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~ A common issue with over-coding pops up from time to time. For example, when you talk about exhaust you code the word exhaust over and over again in a very short time. If you just had an icon show the coded word, don't feel bad about not slapping brackets on it for a paragraph or two.
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- You need to edit the alignment on your pro's and con's section.
- You go in-depth on the items individually which is good for comparisons, but you don't seem to talk about your build as a whole. The first comment on this guide gives a great point. Why
Overall you have a very good guide here, and I see no reason why this shouldn't be the #1 guide for eve. Pm me after you make a few minor changes and I will issue a final vote :)
+1 definitly the best evelynn guide out there .. don't listen to stupid people.
Oh my, thank you so much! :D
Great guide! I really like the idea of hybrid champions and your guide showed that Evelynn is a viable hybrid so I bought her and have been doing pretty well against intermediate bots. I do have one question though.
What's your opinion on
Thanks in advance, and once again great guide
Specolar
That's actually really funny, because I planned on adding it into the alternative items relatively soon. (I just got my wisdom teeth removed, so I'm a bit out of commission for testing items/strategies in-game)
I currently think that
Thank you for your kind words :)
-Shiikan
What's your opinion on
Thanks in advance, and once again great guide
Specolar
considering your enemy will just stand still waiting for you to attack him and is full squishy. and 4 seconds is A LOT of time - most people rage for getting 0.5 sec stun, taking 4 secs to deal some "OK" amount of damage is not enough.
some stuff else:
- which lane are you in? i mean, unless you are lvl 0-20 people don't play the meta, but following it, which lane would you go in?
- you said you deal 1600 damage in 4 secs. AP evelynn with full build deals about 500 (
- ad evelynn with full build crits more than 800 each hit with a really fast AS (boots +
- sustained damage isn't about time
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- you say "Guardian Angel if you feel like their damage is too high to avoid and comes balanced in AD and AP."
guardian angel isn't about getting armor and mr (well that also) but it's actually about the passive, it's a late game item which you get to assure a teamfight that might be game-changing, or if you find yourself dying too often in teamfights (so it would be a mid game item)
- plus let me make something clear. so, you got boots of mobilty +
- ad evelynn: high ad ratios - low ap ratios, low burst, high DPS
ap evelynn: low ad ratios - high ap ratios, high burst, low DPS
hybrid evelynn: ok ad ratios, ok ap ratios, ok burst, nice dps
this build: low ad ratios, low ap ratios, low burst, low dps - i said low, not ****ty
so yeah i think i said **** before, your build isn't useless: it's like hybrid eve, just weaker... it's just that there's no reason to do it if you actually can rape a lot more with other buils.
kisses
My build, I disagree with you 100%. Okay.
I know it works and I honestly don't care if you don't like it, that's one less good Evelynn I'll have to see.
some stuff else:
- which lane are you in? i mean, unless you are lvl 0-20 people don't play the meta, but following it, which lane would you go in?
- you said you deal 1600 damage in 4 secs. AP evelynn with full build deals about 500 (
- ad evelynn with full build crits more than 800 each hit with a really fast AS (boots +
- sustained damage isn't about time
-
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- you say "Guardian Angel if you feel like their damage is too high to avoid and comes balanced in AD and AP."
guardian angel isn't about getting armor and mr (well that also) but it's actually about the passive, it's a late game item which you get to assure a teamfight that might be game-changing, or if you find yourself dying too often in teamfights (so it would be a mid game item)
- plus let me make something clear. so, you got boots of mobilty +
- ad evelynn: high ad ratios - low ap ratios, low burst, high DPS
ap evelynn: low ad ratios - high ap ratios, high burst, low DPS
hybrid evelynn: ok ad ratios, ok ap ratios, ok burst, nice dps
this build: low ad ratios, low ap ratios, low burst, low dps - i said low, not ****ty
so yeah i think i said **** before, your build isn't useless: it's like hybrid eve, just weaker... it's just that there's no reason to do it if you actually can rape a lot more with other buils.
kisses
the vlad part was a joke
btw, you really WILL lack both AAs and spells damage. if you want to burst someone down play AP eve with deathfire + lich. if you want constant damage go for ad eve. but no dude, just randomly mixing both WON'T WORK, and you won't have neither constant damage or burst. unless you're level 1-15, of course.
1) Didn't sound like a joke.
2) No, you won't. Your spells will charge sheen procs to deal additional AD damage added onto the base OF your AD. I have in my items section a very indepth selection of alternative choices including replacing
That's what a guide should be, right? If my guide was just ripping off other guides, how it even my guide?
3) You actually have constant damage and a 1:1 AP ratio on
Here's a little math.
1:1 AP Ratio + 320 base on Ravage: 270 base AP with this build, +30% = 351 AP
351 + 320 = 671 initial burst.
Taking a base of 30 magic resist into account, you now have 23% reduced = 517 initial damage
This will proc your
>>: Trinity Force -> 288 damage
>>: Lich Bane (Lich bane would provide +80 ability power, so new math is added below) -> 578
1:1 AP Ratio + 320 base on Ravage: 320 + 30% = 416 AP
416 + 320 = 736 Initial damage
567 Actual Damage
Proc grants +100% ability power to next basic attack
(Considering you don't have
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(Not counting armor, as it scales and would be hard to measure, based off of a 30 MR)
Proceeding, with
With
Every attack you reduce the enemy's armor by 15, so in around 1.75 seconds you will have hit the enemy 3 times, reducing their armor by 45
You should always be spamming
In 10 seconds your damage will be about (1 second = 1.7408 attacks, each attack dealing 192 damage)
(In 10 seconds you will deal 17 attacks, dealing 3342 damage)
Because
10 seconds isn't really 'sustained' so here are more examples:
3 seconds = 1002.7008 damage (not included
>>: 3 seconds = 768 + 288 = 1056 damage every 3 seconds (included
4 seconds = 1337 damage (not included
>>: 1152 + 288(*2) = 1728 damage (included
This demonstrates that the build does deal sustained damage when using
Proceeding, with
With
Every attack you reduce the enemy's armor by 15, so in around 2.15 seconds you will have hit the enemy 3 times, reducing their armor by 45.
In 10 seconds your damage will be about (1 second = 1.4144 attacks, each attack dealing 162 damage)
(In 10 seconds you will deal 14 attacks, dealing 2291 damage)
Because
10 seconds isn't really 'sustained' so here are more examples:
3 seconds = 687 damage (not included
>>: 3 seconds = 458 + 578 = 1036 damage every 3 seconds (included
4 seconds = 1337 damage (not included
>>: 458 + 578(*2) = 1635 damage (included
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From these basic tests, you can assume that
However, there are additonal stats from
I have a subsection in my "Items" section explaining the different choices.
This theorycrafting has proved your theory that my guide will lack in damage is false.
Thank you!
- Shiikan.
btw, you really WILL lack both AAs and spells damage. if you want to burst someone down play AP eve with deathfire + lich. if you want constant damage go for ad eve. but no dude, just randomly mixing both WON'T WORK, and you won't have neither constant damage or burst. unless you're level 1-15, of course.
no, really... wtf is this? this eve's guide isn't ap, isn't ad, yet isn't hybrid either, isn't a support nor on-hit, nor offtank, nor tank... really, you mixed **** with fries and ate them. plus look at those last results. yeah. positive every game, as well as lost every game.
"The easiest way to kill magicians is to be sure that they have little to no mana. No mana means no fighting back, and an easy kill (as long as they don't have flash!)" - yeah, kill vladimir should be really easy! thank you!
please just tell me what you want with this. your AAs will do ****ty damage and so will your abilities, and you will be squishy as ****. is this ap carry? ad?
but really, it makes me sad to see builds like these on #2 simply because they're huge and "beautiful".
I can tell you didn't even try it considering that it does work and instead of raging about it you could at least specify parts that you found were incorrect or therefor wrong.
Yes Vladimir doesn't have mana but that's a given and it was meant for more general selections of champions.
Damage wise, actually you do a lot of damage with Trinity Force and The Black Cleaver. Wit's End will keep you surviving VLADIMIR (Wow, reoccurring theme!) and OTHER MAGICIANS. Trinity Force also adds HP and MP for sustain.
Chalice of Harmony or my OTHER SITUATIONAL ITEMS INCLUDING SURIVABILITY AND DAMAGE ITEMS, will help you stay alive and not be squishy while still DOING DAMAGE.
Carry-wise, EVELYNN IS NOT A CARRY, Evelynn would be an assassin. Please, understand terminology and champions.
My abilities by end game typically do about 200 damage per hate spike and a nice 700 damage Ravage along with procs from Trinity Force increasing auto-attack output damage immensely. As an assassin, you're not going to be charging in but entering from the side picking off squishies with low health that you can burst down.
Why not just play AP Burst Eve? Because after Ravage you have literally nothing. Therefor, this way your autoattacks do hurt, (which is how I know you didn't try it,) and you can still get kills while, WOW I DON'T KNOW? Having fun.
Games are about having fun, not always winning, love.
ALSO, when did I say "POSITIVE EVERY GAME"
That's a completely different Evelynn guide.
And judging by your account, everything you do is negatively impacting other guides because you're too scared to show yourself on your real account in fear of "revenge votes."
You're really, really, low.
Really low.