Against a Singed...

[quote=Forgillas]Okay, so a few games ago (last night) we faced an unbeatable [[Singed]] ... none of us could kill him but the AD carry, and the AD carry refused to get a [[madred's Bloodrazor]] to fight this Singed... The only one he was having trouble with was, of course, the [[singed]], yet he said he was only having trouble with a 0 10 [[fiddlesticks]] .. (might be a different champion)... he proceeded to state that we shouldn't focus the tank... Even though the tank was the ONLY damage on their team... Question: Would you focus a fed [[Singed]], if hes 12 and 1, or would you focus the other four, and leave [[singed]] to kill everyone? (the others were like 2 and 10, or something on their team mid game) To add in, the AD carry was [[Tryndamere]][/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]You need to shut him down in the lane, he's very scary when farmed. Singed was pretty much carrying that game, so there's no reason not to focus him if the carrys don't deal much damage. BUT he's Singed and as Singed he can just leave the fight and disturb it and do crazy stuff like this, so focusing him might be really painful. Just shut him down in the lane.[/quote]

[quote=Forgillas]So, was it safe to say there was nothing we could do, mid-game, after laning phase was completely over?[/quote]

[quote=ShiftyCake]well, you could use a ganking strategy. Having you're strongest team-mate hide next to you in the jungle so that when they attack he comes around and blocks off the escape. If he runs he can do massive damage. Another way is to get him to half health using few abilities (If you get him lower health he will run, and if you use all you're abilities you can't kill him in time), then hit him with a stun and use all you're abilities to take him down in one go.[/quote]

[quote=Forgillas]One of the problems was that we spent an entire minute trying to DPS singed down, 5v1... and he just wasn't dieing... no one had a madreds or anything to kill him ...[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]Gank him tons early game. Never focus him in a fight. Once his 4 teammates are dead, all he can really do is run away and disrupt your push.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Your carries have to get as fed/farmed as him or more. You have to beat his team. Then you can focus him. If he's escaping, just leave him (unless you can pick him off) and take baron or something.[/quote]

[quote=ShiftyCake][quote=Forgillas] One of the problems was that we spent an entire minute trying to DPS singed down, 5v1... and he just wasn't dieing... no one had a madreds or anything to kill him ... [/quote] then don't try to kill him. Farm, attack the other team-mates that are weak and run. When you get in the fight, have someone keep a stun and use it after the other team-mates are dead to escape him. Soon enough you will be strong enough to take him down.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]You could have just split pushed. If he's the only strong one, then he can't stop two lanes from getting pushed, forget the teamfight, and kill the inhibs and nexus, that's the objective of the game after all[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Madreds is actually bad vs [[singed]] because [[force of nature]] is pretty much core on him :/ all the damage is negated. On-Topic: Well, you could have always waited until he fell off in the late late game if his team sucked. Just farm all your lanes and hope you deal enough damage to kill him, but never over-commit.[/quote]