Why do people say Mobafire sucks compared to...

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Sadron] Isn't there some credibility to the guides here though? I mean I'm following an Ahri guide that's rated 95% with 520 votes. Surely those 520 votes mean SOMETHING? [/quote] Depends who the 520 people were. There's no requirement for voters to actually know anything about the game.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Sadron] Isn't there some credibility to the guides here though? I mean I'm following an Ahri guide that's rated 95% with 520 votes. Surely those 520 votes mean SOMETHING? [/quote] It just means that people agree with the setup. I for one don't. Looking at the cheat sheet, I don't like the masteries. Mostly because [[havoc]] is a terrible mastery as is [[Mental force]]. I'd be taking [[Brute force]], [[Butcher]] and [[Demolitionist]] but that's just me.[/quote]

[quote=Sadron][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Sadron] Isn't there some credibility to the guides here though? I mean I'm following an Ahri guide that's rated 95% with 520 votes. Surely those 520 votes mean SOMETHING? [/quote] It just means that people agree with the setup. I for one don't. Looking at the cheat sheet, I don't like the masteries. Mostly because [[havoc]] is a terrible mastery as is [[Mental force]]. I'd be taking [[Brute force]], [[Butcher]] and [[Demolitionist]] but that's just me. [/quote] I really don't see how those are good at all for an AP carry. Why would they waste points on minion damage and tower damage when your overall damage is increased 1.5%? Honestly I don't like [i]your[/i] masteries :/ The Brute Force for last hits maybe, but...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Sadron] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Sadron] Isn't there some credibility to the guides here though? I mean I'm following an Ahri guide that's rated 95% with 520 votes. Surely those 520 votes mean SOMETHING? [/quote] It just means that people agree with the setup. I for one don't. Looking at the cheat sheet, I don't like the masteries. Mostly because [[havoc]] is a terrible mastery as is [[Mental force]]. I'd be taking [[Brute force]], [[Butcher]] and [[Demolitionist]] but that's just me. [/quote] I really don't see how those are good at all for an AP carry. Why would they waste points on minion damage and tower damage when your overall damage is increased 1.5%? Honestly I don't like [i]your[/i] masteries :/ The Brute Force for last hits maybe, but... [/quote] You're getting 15 more damage on a 1K damage nuke... How often does that happen in reality? More importantly, how often will it help early game which is what masteries are meant for? Also, the +3 AD over the +3 AP is because it makes it far, [b]far[/b] easier to last hit without using spells and the fact that very few champs will have a 1:1 ratio on their skills so that 1 point in [[mental force]] isn't really going to help much if at all.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Theoretically there is accuracy in numbers, so theoretically those 520 votes say quite a bit if you assume it is an even spread among all ELO. In reality it might be 520 lvl 1 scrubs who love her boobs, or top 500 in the world who voted. I like the community here, and I don't write guides so I won't complain about troll vote system, but if I ever check a guide here now I look closely for any signs of credibility.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]MOBAfire sucks because my name isn't blue.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Havoc, like Lugig said, is pretty weak compared to Butcher or Brute Force.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]may i remind you, that as an AP-carry like ahri, you shouldn't be attacking the tower at all, you should be roaming. In a 600 damage combo(easily obtainable with ahri.) that's 8 damage cuz rounding down and stuff... don't you just love it when the enemy gets away with 8 health left?[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=Pølsemanden] may i remind you, that as an AP-carry like ahri, you shouldn't be attacking the tower at all, you should be roaming. In a 600 damage combo(easily obtainable with ahri.) that's 8 damage cuz rounding down and stuff... don't you just love it when the enemy gets away with 8 health left? [/quote] My standard ap-carry setup is Bruteforce-improved and havoc and then the usual.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]It's because there are 1) so many horrible top-rated guides 2) obnoxious people in the community who think they're good 3) no pro teams backing MOBAFire up (no support for theory crafting, no recognition for unorthodox playstyles AND DONT TAKE THIS AS FCKING SUPPORT FOR THE HORRIBLE UNORTHODOX BUILDS ON MOBA) 4) low level players or bad players making horrible guides 5) a lot of guides deviate way too far from the general meta and thats all I can think of right now MOBAFire's community is filled with players who fight their way through elo, rather than Solomid or CLGaming or LolPro (CRS) who have already-high elo players to back them up. This is why there are tons of people in MOBAFire and that's also why it's filled with the good and the bad.[/quote]