Mana Bruiser Taric Inc.

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Nighthawk] I've been saying it since the changes were announced and i'm going to keep saying it, Taric is going to be a hard counter to a lot of top champions that are fotm right now. i'd say my build would go something like this: counter pick garen, talon, fiora, gp, kha, lee, malph, nasus, panth, renekton, rengar, riven, shen, ad sion, tryn, urgot (i'm pretty sure he'll counter most of these champions but not completely sure on some of them) walk into lane with +40ish armor and cloth + 5 completely ignore their damage for the entire lane phase, build boots > tear > frozen heart > muramana > botrk > spirit visage > banshee's veil in no real order [/quote] How you want to stop [[nasus]] if you do nothing to stop his Q farm? BTW: Do you know [[poppy]]? She also has the armor steroid like [[taric]] and she is still nearly never played. Armor alone doesn't make you viable.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Taric]] can already beat [[nasus]] in lane, Nickname. lol [[Dazzle]] + [[Shatter]] on AD [[Taric]] is such a good early game damage trade, he can zone [[nasus]] entirely by himself. I've done it before. And your second argument makes no sense, no one plays [[poppy]] because her early game is abysmal, and [[taric]] doesn't have an armor steroid, it's just a passive. It's the fact that [[Taric]] now SCALES off mana and armor. [[Poppy]] doesn't.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote][[Nasus]] lose to a [[taric]]? Against which kind of noobs do you play[/quote] ^Fixd haha Taric stops nasus' Q farm by autoattacking.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]If taric pushes nasus, nasus farms undertower. That's actually what nasus wants to begin with.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Well yea it usually ends up pushing but repeated [[Dazzle]]+[[Shatter]] and AA combos generally get [[nasus]] to leave or be wary of the attacks.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=FalseoGod] If taric pushes nasus, nasus farms undertower. That's actually what nasus wants to begin with. [/quote] any jungler wants your enemy toplaner to puch you to your turret anyway. I just think [[taric]] will add a lot to set up nice, medium-risk ganks... at least.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Hmm, I'd have to see it. Nasus can bait with W + Exhaust undertower pretty easily, specially if he was smart enough to ward and have his jungler around.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=FalseoGod] Hmm, I'd have to see it. Nasus can bait with W + Exhaust undertower pretty easily, specially if he was smart enough to ward and have his jungler around. [/quote] It's largely because [[Taric]] has a deceptively high damage burst and very high base AD at level 2. I did this in S2 to a [[nasus]] and I don't think he expected [[taric]] to do that much damage, but not that [[Taric]] scales more with armor and mana, this damage early game will be even higher.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]His base damage on W and base his base AD are Getting nerfed... I think they did that so ppl like you won't be able to just get first blood everygame ;p[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Poppy doesn't have a reliable stun, poppy has no heal, poppy has no sustain in lane, poppy doesn't provide an aura, etc etc etc. They're completely different champions, there's literally nothing to compare them with. Also Taric can probably effectively dive Nasus under tower repeatedly if he really wanted to. Or just harass with dazzle if he wants to last hit, or just ignore Nasus and go roam and set up the entire game for his team, or just kill the jungler/disrupt his farm or just ignore nasus completely and when lategame comes roll over him anyways because of his tankiness and aura buffs and peel and just being more useful then a Nasus ever will be. also otg if you take credit from me for saying taric is a good solo top before anyone else and being a hipster i'll kill you, i did it long before this thread >:C[/quote]