Official OGN Winter 2014 Discussion Thread

[quote=Darealone]So I watched the CJ Frost vs Jin Air Stealths game (Frost is my favorite team) and have a lot of questions and comments. -It was clear that MaKnoon was uncomfortable in the mid lane for a while. He clearly messed up several [[command: shockwave]]s with some of them being crucial ones...or maybe all of them being crucial ones. I think he'll do fine later...but what happens when his lane gets REALLY focused down and he just gets shut down? I wonder what will happen. -When Shy was playing [[Riven]] he built a [[Spirit of the ancient golem]] which honestly got me confused. Usually the [[Spirit stone]] upgrades are only for junglers...usually. I understand that the upgrades really help him out since it gave him stats that REALLY made him scary but I mean...could he have built differently? -Madlife on [[Annie]] and [[Sona]] is kinda boring. GIVE HIM HIS [[Thresh]] PLEASE!!! I WANT DEM PLAYS! -It seemed like CJ Frost was losing the early game and had trouble with all the lane rotations going on. Don't take my word for it though...I am no expert. -I honestly didn't like the [[Rengar]] pick on Shy. I thought it was kinda weird. It seemed like TrAce was out trading Shy in the early and mid game. Of course my mind was changed later on when I saw what a monster [[Rengar]] was in the late game. Still though...I thought that pick was slightly risky. -Mystic did multiple face checks in the brushes and died by doing so. He was still a very scary [[Caitlyn]] because of his build but yet CJ Frost still shut him down somehow. -Jin Air Stealths honestly gave CJ Frost a run for their money (or at least I think so). They did very well in the early game. In the second game when they rushed down the turrets and quickly took them down I though the game was over already. -One thing that did bother me was how CJ Frost gave up dragon a lot. I don't know what they were thinking though...maybe it was to take another objective. -Jin Air Stealths clearly won the vision war. It seemed like CJ Frost didn't even care though...2 barons that were EXTREMELY risky. I don't know...if they lose the vision war against the other teams...it might not end so well. EDIT: If someone would read these...that would be great.[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]Watched another match with both SK Telecom teams. My thoughts and notes and questions etc... -K (Faker's team) looked normal. CSing well and catching back up even though first blood was taken by S. -K clearly out CSed S by a lot. In game 2 Marin was out CSing Impact but besides that the some of the gold difference came from the CS. -Easyhoon was able to hold his own against Faker. I think he did a great job in terms of matching up. He had several good plays. -Marin just got shut down...and hard. His lane got ganked a lot so just couldn't do anything. In the second game even when he would ulti with his [[Kennen]] it really didn't seem like it did anything. -K's team fight initiation style were just great. [[Tibbers]] to [[Dragon's Descent]] into a [[Command: Shockwave]] were just crazy good. You could see it's power in the first game near the end. -Piglet just owned. Seriously. He was left alone in the top lane in the first game and didn't seem to mind...and then in the second game just owned some more. -H0R0 was pretty solid...maybe. I dunno...he got caught in places he shouldn't have been and nearly died every single time. -Overall I feel like K outplayed S. They were able to take objectives, get kills, do all the right things. There were times when S took advantage of K overextending but besides that K did a great job.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]and team dark vs. samsung galaxy ozone game 2 goes down as the shortest ever league of legends game in competitive history[/quote]

[quote=Darealone][quote=Jebus McAzn] and team dark vs. samsung galaxy ozone game 2 goes down as the shortest ever league of legends game in competitive history [/quote] That was just pure troll (no pun intended).[/quote]

[quote=dipsarkar]I usually watch LOL Champions series Stream live on KMPlayer and it is way better than Twitch. Looking forward to next week Dec 4 match.[/quote]

[quote=gotoh]After seeing the first preseason games what i find very interesting is the fact that unlike 99% of preseason support who would take [[Relic Shield]] or [[Spellthief's Edge]], they always took [[ancient coin]] for the guaranteed gold and the powerful active. This is very interesting as it may change the dynamics of bot lane. The coin indeed is the line with the most powerful active and I think now i'll take it more.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Players seem to be rushing [[Talisman of Ascension]] as soon as possible - the massive gold gain from the Coin item tree and the low price of Talisman makes it extremely powerful considering that you can get it ridiculously early in the game. Mandu had something like a 12 or 15 minute Talisman in G1 vs. Blaze just now.[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]I feel like in the second match with CJ Frost vs. Jin Air Falcons, Frost just kinda threw the game out the window. They made a lot of odd mistakes that they don't usually make...[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]inSec went back to his [[Lee Sin]]. ALL DEM PLAYS SO GUHD! The juke to juke to teleport to Baron...OP.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Like how I kept talking about amulet coin due to income and upgrade and the answer was always "spellthief is way better now that targon's nerfed"[/quote]