Do you think Vayne is still good?

[quote=I post stuff]Ugh forget [[ezreal]]... Maybe he's good but 99% of LoL community can't play him.[/quote]

[quote=Qersidon]So back on the [[Vayne]] being good or not...I watched a lot of good players dominate with her in diamond 1 or challenger like Hi im Gosu or Doublelift, in good hands and with a good support she can't be shut down in lane and she can carry games.So all in all she isn't as strong as she was before and a lot of adc-s poop on her in lane but she is still strong and after the nerfs to other adc-s she will be "OP" again.Did I get it!? :D[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu][[vayne]] works better with strong presence support like [[thresh]]. I play lot's of teamranked and we can make [[vayne]] lane work, but in soloQ [[vayne]] doesn't really work unless you really know how to make up for the early losses or you don't get far behind in laning phase. In soloQ you can't really rely in your jungler or support that much. As example; In soloQ I fall behind 10-30 cs, but I often get kill or two and start contesting farm after 6 and [[bilgewater cutlass]]. The nerfs for other adc's are not that big and [[vayne]] will still get bullied a lot. In teamranked; We often end up putting a lot for bot lane and I often leave bot lane with advantage. Sometimes shit happens and we get dumpstered, but a really good [[vayne]] works still.[/quote]

[quote=Qersidon][[Vayne]] was always bullied in lane just like the other late-game carries, but it's not impossible to win with her in soloQ. I played with a lot of great supports that make my laning easier but i know what you mean, if i get a bad support i just fall behind, sometimes too much to do anything.[/quote]

[quote=DisturbedFox][quote=Joxuu] [[vayne]] works better with strong presence support like [[thresh]]. I play lot's of teamranked and we can make [[vayne]] lane work, but in soloQ [[vayne]] doesn't really work unless you really know how to make up for the early losses or you don't get far behind in laning phase. In soloQ you can't really rely in your jungler or support that much. As example; In soloQ I fall behind 10-30 cs, but I often get kill or two and start contesting farm after 6 and [[bilgewater cutlass]]. The nerfs for other adc's are not that big and [[vayne]] will still get bullied a lot. In teamranked; We often end up putting a lot for bot lane and I often leave bot lane with advantage. Sometimes shit happens and we get dumpstered, but a really good [[vayne]] works still. [/quote] Actually, unless your team is bronze and you're gold+, it's much easier to win in soloq rather than arranged 5s for what imo are obvious as fuck reasons[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu][quote=DisturbedFox] Actually, unless your team is bronze and you're gold+, it's much easier to win in soloq rather than arranged 5s for what imo are obvious as fuck reasons [/quote] Winning the game is different than winning the lane :) Just said that our team pressures bottom a lot and I often win lane thanks to it.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Which is the smart thing to do, because if you pressure bot enough you leave ample room for baron control.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]SURPRISE! EVERYONE WORKS IN SOLOQUEUE![/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Embracing] SURPRISE! EVERYONE WORKS IN SOLOQUEUE! [/quote] throatslasher disagrees.[/quote]

[quote=Qersidon]Found out that [[Vayne]] top is really good...so all the [[Vayne]] players like myself can play her top until she is strong enough to fight other carryes in bot. :D[/quote]