Question from a lowly Bronze.

[quote=Bioalchemist]it depends. if you can get ahead through cs/farming/assists or objectives you can be more aggressive. if you get behind though you can't be aggressive because the enemy will out trade you. one of the biggest mistakes i see is when players get behind they still want to go all out on their lane opponent without help. and they slowly dig themselves a hole they can't get out of. minimizing my deaths by spotting easy opportunities and not being ballz to the wallz was one of the best improvements i have made to my gameplay.[/quote]

[quote=Rhollback][quote=Bioalchemist] it depends. if you can get ahead through cs/farming/assists or objectives you can be more aggressive. if you get behind though you can't be aggressive because the enemy will out trade you. one of the biggest mistakes i see is when players get behind they still want to go all out on their lane opponent without help. and they slowly dig themselves a whole they can't get out of. minimizing my deaths by spotting easy opportunities and not being ballz to the wallz was one of the best improvements i have made to my gameplay. [/quote] To be honest in early game I often prioritize kills as my main income, farming when necessary. So to be clear I should do the inverse in a more passive playstyle? AKA Farm > Kills. I can see the logic in that, just honestly never considered the efficiency. Also to Joxuu, thank you for suggestion an AP/AD rune page, I'll actually get working on that once I get some more IP.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Trade is generally worth when you do more damage to enemy than enemy does to you.[/quote]

[quote=Rhollback][quote=Joxuu] Trade is generally worth when you do more damage to enemy than enemy does to you. [/quote] I would assume, heh. I meant in a more Kill/Turret Destroyed/etc. scenario. But when would the right time be to trade? When they're caught out only?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]1. Did the enemy use summoners? 2. Did you come out with more health than the enemy? 3. Can you regen more health than the enemy? i.e. you have 3 pots they have 1 4. Did they use any key abilities? i.e. Anivias passive, Jinx flame chompers, other escape abilities if the answer to those is yes then the trade was worth, you dont have to kill the enemy laner to make the trade worth also you should look at your masteries, you have Butcher and Feast on mid lane pages and your jinx page and those two are not that great on nonjunglers, feast isnt even that amazing for many junglers anyways on your jinx page you should take the point out of feast and put it on Fury, more AS is better than healing 2 hp when you kill a minion[/quote]

[quote=Rhollback][quote=DillButt64] 1. Did the enemy use summoners? 2. Did you come out with more health than the enemy? 3. Can you regen more health than the enemy? i.e. you have 3 pots they have 1 4. Did they use any key abilities? i.e. Anivias passive, Jinx flame chompers, other escape abilities if the answer to those is yes then the trade was worth, you dont have to kill the enemy laner to make the trade worth also you should look at your masteries, you have Butcher and Feast on mid lane pages and your jinx page and those two are not that great on nonjunglers, feast isnt even that amazing for many junglers anyways on your jinx page you should take the point out of feast and put it on Fury, more AS is better than healing 2 hp when you kill a minion [/quote] Sincerely appreciate the suggestion, for some reason I honestly thought Feast would help in the long run. Honestly I either winged most pages or changed up some that I found on here. Blah, shoulda known better.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu][quote=Rhollback] I would assume, heh. I meant in a more Kill/Turret Destroyed/etc. scenario. But when would the right time be to trade? When they're caught out only? [/quote] Dragon > Few kills Dragon ~ Outer turret Mid turret > Dragon Baron > Dragon Baron > Outer turret or small damage to inner turret Inner turrets > Baron Inhibitor tower & inhibitor > Pretty much everything Right time to trade is when you are sure you can win the trade.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]You can always join the Mobafire chat and people can speak to you in-game which is probably easier than on the forums. Plus people can play with you and see your skill first-hand, it's a lot easier to assess what someone is doing incorrectly when you can see it[/quote]

[quote=Rhollback][quote=Mooninites] You can always join the Mobafire chat and people can speak to you in-game which is probably easier than on the forums. Plus people can play with you and see your skill first-hand, it's a lot easier to assess what someone is doing incorrectly when you can see it [/quote] I actually went there a few times but it seems dead more often than not. That kind of thing would be pretty amazing actually.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]just gotta ask questions some people will answer sooner or later[/quote]