NicknameMy - The S4 begins

[quote=Hannul][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0] The Veigar was bursting you? Wat. [/quote] 120% AP ratio on ult 100% AP ratio on w 80% AP ratio on q and DFG wrecks max health and veigar had a void staff and since he was the only one fed veigar went might as well then wastes stun then q r'ed him maybe even w'ed him because [[darius]] is so slow[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, that [[Darius]] wasn't slow cuz [[zephyr]]+[[boots of mobility]]+[[enchantment: alacrity]] Well, next game, GP again and again, a victory. [img]http://imageshack.com/a/img199/7849/hixq.png[/img] It is the undefeated tanky GP OP, please be carefull. This game showed again how easy it is to make the adc with GP fed. He was rather behind, then in one teamfight with the power of my [[raise morale]], [[cannon barrage]] and [[grog soaked blade]] I could hold the enemies long enough away and buff my adc enough so he could beat them up. Then he got through that fed and well...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]And the GP series goes on: [img]http://imageshack.com/a/img854/5443/jil1.png[/img] 4:1 by now, not bad not bad, already better than last season, lol. Would somebody gift me [[spooky gangplank]]? That would at least double the potential of my build.[/quote]

[quote=Lord Kesharq]how would a skin "double the potential of my build"?[/quote]

[quote=Ahruu][quote=Lord Kesharq] how would a skin "double the potential of my build"? [/quote] Graphically :p It goes well with the iceborn passive[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=NicknameMy] Why I should buy [[spirit of the ancient golem]] if I sell it later anyway? [/quote] Because it gives you like 1k gold by the time you'd want to consider selling it. Rush Spirit of the Ancient Golem, and continue with the rest of your build, using AG instead of Sunfire Cape, which by the way, is only good if you rush it, not if you buy it at like 25 minutes which you seem to be doing. Unless you get super lucky in your ganks, and GP's ganks are far from good, you're going to get behind the enemy jungler just because you're not rushing a Spirit item.[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Vapora Dark] [quote=NicknameMy] Why I should buy [[spirit of the ancient golem]] if I sell it later anyway? [/quote] Because it gives you like 1k gold by the time you'd want to consider selling it. Rush Spirit of the Ancient Golem, and continue with the rest of your build, using AG instead of Sunfire Cape, which by the way, is only good if you rush it, not if you buy it at like 25 minutes which you seem to be doing. Unless you get super lucky in your ganks, and GP's ganks are far from good, you're going to get behind the enemy jungler just because you're not rushing a Spirit item. [/quote] I agree with the buying Ancient Golem portion of this. And for clarification, are you stating that Sunfire cape isn't good at 25 minutes when bought?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=NateDog13] [quote=Vapora Dark] [quote=NicknameMy] Why I should buy [[spirit of the ancient golem]] if I sell it later anyway? [/quote] Because it gives you like 1k gold by the time you'd want to consider selling it. Rush Spirit of the Ancient Golem, and continue with the rest of your build, using AG instead of Sunfire Cape, which by the way, is only good if you rush it, not if you buy it at like 25 minutes which you seem to be doing. Unless you get super lucky in your ganks, and GP's ganks are far from good, you're going to get behind the enemy jungler just because you're not rushing a Spirit item. [/quote] I agree with the buying Ancient Golem portion of this. And for clarification, are you stating that Sunfire cape isn't good at 25 minutes when bought? [/quote] Yes. I don't know exactly when it falls off, but I'm pretty sure it's starting to be a little late to use Sunfire effectively by the time you've built [[spirit visage]] and [[iceborn gauntlet]], and god knows what other items he builds before it.[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Vapora Dark] [quote=NateDog13] [quote=Vapora Dark] [quote=NicknameMy] Why I should buy [[spirit of the ancient golem]] if I sell it later anyway? [/quote] Because it gives you like 1k gold by the time you'd want to consider selling it. Rush Spirit of the Ancient Golem, and continue with the rest of your build, using AG instead of Sunfire Cape, which by the way, is only good if you rush it, not if you buy it at like 25 minutes which you seem to be doing. Unless you get super lucky in your ganks, and GP's ganks are far from good, you're going to get behind the enemy jungler just because you're not rushing a Spirit item. [/quote] I agree with the buying Ancient Golem portion of this. And for clarification, are you stating that Sunfire cape isn't good at 25 minutes when bought? [/quote] Yes. I don't know exactly when it falls off, but I'm pretty sure it's starting to be a little late to use Sunfire effectively by the time you've built [[spirit visage]] and [[iceborn gauntlet]], and god knows what other items he builds before it. [/quote] Alright, just wanted to make sure because I don't know if you know (or noticed, maining a role tends to makes it hard to keep continuous knowledge of other roles items being updated sometimes lol), but Riot changed sunfire to the point where its more worthwhile to buy it at later levels (generally past 10 because thats where it starts doing its previous damage) than at earlier levels, because the damage scales with level. [[Sunfire Cape]] "Unique passive: Deals 25 + (level) magic damage per second to nearby enemies (400 range)." That negates your argument in terms of it not being good, but definitely buffs your argument in terms of it being more worthwhile after AG.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I also get [[wit's end]] which decreases the enemy MR, making [[sunfire cape]] dealing more damage lategame. Together with his passive (and ultimate, lol), the magic damage of GP adds up. Still, I will not get [[spirit of the ancient golem]], especially because I actually lost no game with GP by now.[/quote]