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I would say there are not many counters to be afraid of, but please add Teemo, he is a real problem in top since his ranged poke will let Kled dismount very often, and you wont get much farm in early. Also with the classic Quinn top it can be more complicated to get early farm.
As per the no ad thing, a simple GA would be enough if you mean only an adc that isnt too prevalent
Re match-ups. I would throw in Pantheon in there. I played against one in back to back games so I got to change things up between matches.
1st time: Started Doran's Shield + 1 Health Potion. That worked okay until he managed to get me dismounted. Then it was all-in plus Ignite and I died. I tried fighting him again after I got some armor, but it just didn't work. He would knock me off Skarl and then finish me off with a 2nd rotation and Ignite if I stuck around while dismounted, even with Ninja Tabi. He picked up a triple kill in Bot lane later and I couldn't touch him for pretty much the rest of the game without team coordination.
2nd time: Started Cloth Armor + 4 Health Potions and only tried to trade with him with just Q damage, unless he tried to jump on me while I had all three abilities available, which this Panth did when I tried to proc the 2nd part of the Q damage. Trades were pretty even that way. But I made sure to keep my health up while doing all of this with the 4 potions. This one was not running Ignite so that helped.
Would you run armor seals in this match-up? The first time I did, but I didn't go cloth armor. The second time I ran health/lvl seals (as you recommend) with cloth armor to bolster me
I will say though, I don't see a lot of Pantheon.
I will say though, I don't see a lot of Pantheon.
Thanks for the reply Archthunder!
Pantheon is sort of my nemesis. When I play him I get some lane that I can't snowball or I am one ability/auto from getting my passive back to win the fight then I die. When someone on the enemy team plays him they stomp a mud hole my team's backside and we lose when we surrender at 20, but we win if I can keep my team from surrendering and we make it to 35 minutes into the game.
It was odd getting one two matches back to back.
Uh, aren't getting the lane to push in and rushing Tiamat mutually exclusive?
If you mean - weather the early laning phase to the point where you can buy a Tiamat and then make Pantheon pay when he roams with his tower, that I'll agree with that.
I'll have to give Doran's Shield while running health/lvl seals another whirl as you suggestd, but my inclination is that for my play style, I think Cloth Armor into Ninja Tabi and a Long Sword will let you kill him with jungler help. Do not fight/let him get on you if dismounted especially if he is running Ignite/if low let your jungler finish him off after you get what damage you can off on him.
Ah. I will have to try that. Still trying to get used to his AA animation in general so I miss a fair amount of CC with no help from the enemy laner. I'm starting to get it down though.
I can image that. I assume his blind probably lasts the entire duration of Violent Tendencies which eats the bulk of your damage.
I do have my own little tidbit for Kled, when you get dismounted poke with your Q a little bit and then when you have about 20-30 courage (or even less if you have Tiamat/Hydra) I find you can then just go completely YOLO on the enemy, hopefully your AAs are enough to get back on Skaarl and then that big chunk of HP and mobility should easily allow you to finish your opponent, I find Death's Dance really helps when it comes to this strategy.